“Dying man couldn’t make up his mind which place to go to—both have their advantages, ‘heaven for climate, hell for company!'” – Mark Twain

“….If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us….” – WEST VIRGINIA STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION ET AL. v. BARNETTE ET AL., 319 U.S. 624 (1943)

Yesterday, from Mark Alford (r) on social media:

Congressman Mark Alford
[April 12, 2025]
America is facing a spiritual battle. We’re working to bring God back!
[….]

Transcript:

“We need to bring god back.”

“And I do think this is a spiritual battle. You and I have talked about, there’s a demonic element to what’s going on in America.”

“Yeah, it is a demonic, it’s a spiritual battle. If we could see in the heavenly realms right now we’d see the angels fighting the demons. Because that is, that is what’s happening right here in Congress. And I’m gonna tell you something. The rot starts at the top.”

The responses:

Talking about political or secular government items in religious terms is not appropriate. Calling a person evil and demonic is dangerous.
Just because a person thinks All people have the same rights as others does not make them a demon it shows that they believe in our constitution.
I get a lot of that your evil and a devil BS for supporting minority groups as they exercise their rights to assemble, associate and free speech.
You should at least keep this cultist BS on your personal page.

If anyone disagrees with Mark, move out of the U.S.A. – “one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all”, quoted from the Pledge of Allegiance, and stop using the money “In God We Trust” is printed on some of our currency, and stop calling for people to abide by the law- the Ten Commandments predate our Constitution, Bill of Rights and any law on the books and most of our laws today reflect or are based on teachings, commands and precepts of the Bible. Also look at the origin of the “separation of church and state”. You’ll find out it wasn’t intended to stop the practice of religion in the lives of elected officials but was designed to keep “the state” from enforcing or forcing any religion on the people and actually ensures “we the people” have the freedom to choose who, how and if we worship.

Ahistorical moron. The Pledge of Allegiance is neither a founding document nor a binding law. It was written by a socialist minister for a children’s magazine to mark the Columbian celebrations in 1892.

when was under god added to our money and the pledge?

“I pledge alleigance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God with liberty and justice for all.” I recited this pledge along with my classmates every day of every school year from 1st grade through Jr. High. So at least from the time I was born, that phrase has been there. Check your wallet for the In God We Trust phrase.

Wait for it.

I didn’t ask for you to recite anything. When was it added? Hint: It hasn’t been there since 1776.

neither has the right to vote for women or the abolition of slavery or Social Security or Medicaid…

Wait for it.

let me put it in all caps so you know what I’m asking…again.
WHEN WAS IN GOD WE TRUST AND UNDER GOD ADDED?

everyone else is stupid. It was added after congress catered to the Catholic order of the Knights of Columbus, only in 1954.

Yeah…about 150 years after the country was created…
And none of your mantras or catch phrases you seem to be relying carry ANY legal weight.
The Constitution does.
Perhaps you should read it and quit being a judgemental hypocrite!

pledge: 1954. Currency: 1955 during McCarthyism and the “Red Scare”

Honey, you need to learn history. One nation under god was added to the Pledge in the 1950’s during McCarthyism. Same for In God We Trust on money. A time similar to now, when Republicans tried to scare the electorate for power. They lost back then, and they will now. Separation of church and state is what our founders contributed. Republicans contributed all of the religious bs.

dude, no one says the pledge of allegiance or what’s written on money doesn’t exist. 🙄 I could care less if it’s there or not. But Christian Nationalists want a theocracy. Plain and simple. Look at Saudi Arabia and Iran if you’d like contemporary examples of a theocracy.

Individuals CAN believe whatever they choose.
But when elected officials begin to legislate based on those religious beliefs, we have a problem.
And if you don’t believe the first amendment and subsequent scotus decisions have not affirmed a separation, I would argue it is you who lack the comprehension skills.
Specific words do not need to be in black and white for the interpretation to be understood, but fortunately, we have a justice system that helps interpret these things when there is confusion.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”. Pushing laws that promote or show preference to one specific religion is prohibited, thus the ‘separation’.

“the United States was not, in any sense, founded on the christian religion”. – Treaty of Tripoli, 1797.

if we have laws prohibiting murder…that’s from the Bible which predates the founding of this country. I did not say the U.S. was founded on the Christian religion. I said most of our laws are founded on Biblical principles. The Bible is the inspired word of God as He has revealed Himself to us, religion is the practice of His revelations…and some religions don’t always get it right.

Wait for it.

Babylonian Law predates the Ten Commandments. Also, the Code of Ur-Nammu predates even that. Founders also looked at some Native laws and the Magna Carta.
What is your point?

Yeah, murder was considered wrong long before the commandments.
And no, ‘most’ of our laws are not.
Nor is our law of the land, which I pointed out already
You should learn some basic religious and legal history before you go swinging your Jesus dick in people’s faces. You look ignorant and foolish.

how about you move to Russia and take all the magats with you since you seem to have no issues with 1 person having control of an entire country because that is where he is headed and the Republican Party doesn’t have the guts to stand up for the American peoples’ rights.

“We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and have been endowed by their Creator certain unalienable rights; the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Who is our creator?

That’s exactly the point! Not everyone sees their Creator the same as you or me – OR the little coward.

Please show me in the Constitution – the official ‘law of the land’ where these words are, [….].
Can’t wait to see it!
You know what words ARE in there? The first amendment which gives the freedom to believe or not as an individual chooses and that NO religion shall be shown preferential treatment under the law.

How is anything I’ve said judgemental? I understand that some people feel judged when hearing someone else’s opinion or beliefs. I’ve also not stated anything in a hateful manner. YOU, on the other hand, have called me names, told me I’m stupid and said I should leave this country. Who’s judging who? And where is your “tolerance, acceptance or inclusion”? Tell me, do those things only apply to those who share your views?

The first rule of holes: when you’ve put yourself in a deep hole, stop digging.

your parents.

We don’t want your silly superstitions. Go live in Gilliad.

[….] listen…
YOU don’t get to tell anyone where to live or how to interpret the constitution. Originally the US motto was “E Pluribus Unum” which translates to “Out of many, one”. This phrase was suggested by a committee in 1776 and appeared on the Great Seal of the United States.
No one has EVER prevented anyone in America from practicing Christianity anytime or place they like. You are correct in your summation, that the intent is to allow freedom of religious practice for individuals, while assuring the government would not adopt nor promote a particular religion. Mark seems to think Americans need him to “bring God back”. That is both preposterous and presumptive. It’s not appropriate for an elected representative to make that assertion.
No one has to leave the U.S. for disagreeing with Mark ALford.

[….]
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If anyone disagrees with Mark, move out of the U.S.A. –
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No.

[….] Separation of church and state.
No white Christian Nationalism here bub.

The “Under God” part of the pledge of allegiance was not in the pledge originally and was added later. It’s the same story with the “In God we trust’. Saying on money. This country has ALWAYS included the tenet of Separation of Church and State. Not everyone shares your religious beliefs or practices your religion. I don’t care about the “ten commandments.” You have every right to practice your religion as you see fit, but keep it out of our goverment. You are not allowed to shove your religion down everyone’s else’s throats. The State is not allowed to force one religion down any one’s throats. Stop trying to have the State sanction Christianity. Stop trying to change history. Stop whining that you are being persecuted when you are harassing others about your faith. Everyone has freedom to practice their own religion, or no religion, as they see fit. This reality doesn’t hurt you one bit.

Congressman Mark Alford you’re All Cross and No Acts.

[….] Imagine a woman who voted for a sexual predator thinking she has the moral high ground. There are no Christians in the Trump cult.

[….] the pledge is not the constitution. We should not have put those words on the money. Also what makes you think God is Christian? She is a Buddhist and everyone knows it.

We see what you did there.

Ironically, God wants nothing to do with people like Mark Alford.

The “rot” DOES “start at the top” with Trump, Vance, Musk and all of you who are being evil and hateful to our poor, our foreigners, our scientists, our workers, etc. You who talk like Christ followers, but your hearts are far from Him. You whose actions show you as a “brood of vipers” instead of God fearing and God following.

Congressman Mark Alford why don’t you chat here or in a townhall where all of your constituents can hear and know what is said? This is a public issue, a public conversation should be had.

Separation of church and state is not mentioned in the 1st Amendment. That assumption originated in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to church leaders in his time. The 1st Amendment does, however, address ‘freedom of religion”. It say nothing about freedom from religion.

[….] It says very explicitly that the govt shall not encourage or endorse any religion.
Nor can anyone be conpelled into a religion, so yes, freedom FROM is implied.
Subsequent SCOTUS decisions have affirmed the separation of church and state.
We are not a theocracy

We are not a theocracy. The government may not compel us into any specific religion nor may it keep us from practicing any religion.

Exactly! We need to go back to being …”one nation under God”. The battle is spiritual, Ephesians 6:12 states, “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places”. God Bless you Mark!

we have never been ‘one nation under god’. You know that, right?

[….] sure sounds like a woman trying to express dominion.

We see what you did there.

[….] that phrase was added in the 1950s…when women couldn’t get a bank account and black people had to use different water fountains and could be hung for whistling at a white woman.
Is this the “golden age” Mark wants to go back to?

What a joke. So your theology says, God (who is supposedly omnipresent), just leaves sometimes and comes back sometimes? Nothing you say theologically is intellectually viable. Just another hack trying to use god as a weapon for your political agenda.

Oh, the irony. People that support the cruelest, least empathetic, and most corrupt administration since the 19th century saying we need to bring god back into government. The irony of supporting Trump, the least religious president ever. And the most hateful, cruelest, most petty president in over 150 years. Problem is, religion was never in our government. Read the constitution. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” NO LAW! Pretty clear, that.
BTW, “under God” was added to the pledge in 1954 and “in god we trust” first appeared on coins in 1864, and on paper money in 1957. Absolutely nothing to do with the creation of our non-theistic government.

We can agree. You and your kind are definitely a demonic presence in our country.

Thats why we have separation of church and state Mark. Your thoughts on religion are not needed in politics.

Mr. Alford, when’s the next Mondays with Mark, where you meet, in person, with your real constituents to answer their real questions and get to see their real response to you repeating Republican talking points?

Put God first! It doesn’t matter who is President has long as they honor our heavenly Father. We all come on this page and bash each other. Calling each other names in how we belive. If you don’t like President Trump so be it. Just have respect for the Office and those who do like him. Sometimes we just don’t see how God is working through others.

Wait for it.

[….] Weird so many ‘Christians’ did not share your stance when a Dem was in charge, yet think everyone else should fall in line under Trump.
That’s called ‘hypocrisy’.
I don’t believe in your god and the law of the land says I have that right.
If you want to put ‘god’ over the Constitution, I will oppose you in any way I can….
Even moreso to an elected official who is supposed to be respecting the rights and beliefs of those he is supposed to represent.

Demons, apparently.

[….] which God? The Orange one or the one that Jews/Christians/Muslims all share?

God is a personal thing…it can not be goverened..this is a ridiculous waste of resources

This is not a theocracy, creeper.

Mr. Alford, what an excellent way to get your constituents arguing with each other. Nice deflection.
Going by the number of churches I see around town, in cities, and mentions of them along I-70, I’d say that, um…, how to put this?, that the god you revere hasn’t “gone” anywhere.
And as for bringing this god “back” … How in heaven’s name could teeny, tiny, minuscule humans remove a Creator who can cause a cosmos to come into being? A god that can be removed (all those churches say otherwise) must not be omnipotent, or, with free will, much concerned with whether the teeny, tiny humans “believe” one way or the other.
I’d address demons, but as they are neither provable or not (regardless of perception), any discussion would be, as Faulkner says (minus the idiots), sound and fury, signifying nothing. The comment about the rot starting at the top, though, that was gold. 🙂
So, you’ve got us all whipped up, ready for giving your Sunday post a ready audience to pump up your engagement numbers. Bravo!

If this is a spiritual battle you would be stuck in hell for worshipping the demon.

God never left! He was legislated out!

Then he isn’t much of a god

There is no congruence between Christianity and the modern Republican Party, which is a cult.
The Nazis claimed to be Christians too, less and less difference between the two by the day.

Freedom of religion! EVERY religion. You have no right to try to force your particular form of religion onto the rest of the country. Especially since yours lacks empathy.

Again, this is your PUBLIC account, sir. It should not be used to proselytize. The Constitution clearly states in the First Amendment that the government shall not establish religion. While you are welcome to express your opinions on religion and its place in government on your personal account, you should not use your public account for this sort of speech. It is improper. You, as a representative, should know this. Either your incompetence is showing or you are openly flouting one of the bedrocks of our government.

Don’t let that freedom from religion stop you. Derp

This is typical for Mark, and just another way he “demonizes” anyone who doesn’t agree with him. This is not true Christianity in any sense of the word.

Congressman Mark Alford is the demonic element.

This is actually insane.

Oh we out here doing God’s work now huh?

It is 100% a spiritual battle, the evil doesn’t even hide anymore. And they are after the children!

The founding fathers were men of the Age of Enlightenment. They did not rule by religion, they fought to build a government of the people without religion being a part of it. Separation of Church and State was and still is fundamental to our nation. E pluribus Unum was our original motto: out of many, one. Nothing about god until the 50s when folks like you wanted to push folks into submission by claiming god was guiding them. If you really followed Christ, you’d know he led by example, not by force. Please keep your Christianity out of our government. Remember watch Jesus did to the money changers outside the temple? That’s what he would do with you trying to control people with your religion.

[….] Alford voted to cut food stamps and Medicaid by almost $1 Trillion dollars, Medicaid by $880 Billion, SNAP by $230 Billion. He voted to raise drug prices for the elderly and the poorest among us. He’s said here, out loud on video, that Social Security needs to be cut and the retirement age raised. Alford has made it clear he supports ripping children from parents coming across the border and putting entire families in jail under the fake guise of fentanyl, when it’s really due to the color of their skin. Repeating Alford’s words back to him isn’t BS, what is BS is that someone as unqualified and racist as Mark Alford made it into office in the first place. What a damning indictment of the Republican 4th District voters.

[….] then why did he go on Fox in December and say he wants to do those things?
Is he lying?
Do good Christians lie?

STOP this…..the first amendment is in jeopardy with this idea. Better idea is to work on politicians telling the TRUTH and keep your oath to the constitution and not to one man.

Worry about your own god and we will worry about ours. Mark, you’re starting to sound like a bible thumper….

[….] ‘starting’?

God? Seriously? God would be appalled at what you do.

Trump is the demonic element

Mark is a fake Christian because Jesus would not vote to not help needy people with Medicaid.

“….It seems trite but necessary to say that the First Amendment to our Constitution was designed to avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings….” – WEST VIRGINIA STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION ET AL. v. BARNETTE ET AL., 319

Mark is facing a spiritual battle. Claims to be a Christian but lies everyday.
Don’t dump your crisis on us.

Want to bring back God?
Either start a church or start acting like Jesus instead of a Pharisee.

Separation of church and state, Mark, or are you going to celebrate ALL religions?

Not at all. No one needs your fabricated conflict. We don’t need a deity’s promises or threats to do the right thing.

Did the leave they Establishment Clause out of your Constitution? Or did you fail history class? Theocracy doesn’t just compromise government, it corrupts The Church. Every time. You will do more do more damage to the Gospel with your actions than any of the unchurched. You should read The Screwtape Letters.

If you have a God problem, start with your false witness issued first.

God never went anywhere, Mark.
In fact, God’s been right beside me forever. If you lost track of God, don’t project that darkness onto the rest of us.

That is NOT your job! Your job is to provide quality services like education and great highways, and insure a quality of life, and protect the citizens of this country from evil, corrupt wannabe dictators like the corrupt piece of shit currently in the white house.

Sorry you seem to have lost “god.” Or maybe God walked away from you due to all your evil, nasty ways.

Stop using religion as if it’s a cure all. Nobody gives a damn about your faith. Separation of church and state, moron. We need people like you to go back to your homeland, russia.

Who are these women? If you are going to post this garbage on your official government FaceBook page, we should be told their identities and how they are coming to these blasphemous conclusions.

How much does your office have to pay this Grifter to do an interview with you?

But the Constitution you swore to uphold, Representative???
God hates a liar.

How are you working to bring God back, when you decry the teachings of Jeaus as “woke”, and fight against them? Jesus taught love, compassion, and understanding, and you and the rest of the GOP have pushed anti-tolerance legislation. You have taken a stand in supporting those who can take care of themselves over helping the poor and sick. But, all is good as long as you worship a fake idol and post scripture one day a week.

What are maga politicians doing to make anyone’s life better? Crashing the stock and bond markets? Is it the rising prices? How about them ruining our country’s credit rating? Maybe it’s ruining our relationships with our allies? How about making it harder to get government services, or is it the layoffs of our friends and family? Oh, maybe it’s the threat of taking needed services because they think it’s waste? I know, it’s bringing back diseases that we already eradicated. That must be it.

You sound like a cult member instead of a public servant.

So people who want to help the working people are “demonic”?
People who want the hungry to be fed are “demonic”?
People who want to end discrimination are “demonic”?
People who want to protecting voting rights are “demonic”?
People who want to help senior citizens and the poor have health care are “demonic”?
People who want kids to get quality educations are “demonic”?
People who want our farmers to be able to sell their crops and not go bankrupt are “demonic”?
People who demand our President abide by the laws are “demonic”?
Damn…what version of the Bible do you read???

God save us from Christian Nationalist fascists like Mark Alford.

Man has created thousands of gods,they are all man made,keep that religious crap out of government Alford you 🤡🤡

There are no Christians in the Trump cult. But you still want to shove your fake religion down other people’s throats in violation of the constitution.

Congressman Mark Alford is the demon. You are not a Christian.

Simpletons.

Is that why you take food away from hungry children?

Separation of church and state.
No white Christian Nationalism here bub.

Hey, Mark, thanks for supporting the dumbest trade war in history, destroying the markets for our products, and placing an effective tax increase on everyone. You could stop it if you weren’t such a worthless Trumpsucker!

The lies you tell do not commend you to Christ.