You miss out on those early basics of critical thinking.
One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn’t belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?
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We see fit.
An attempted comment to a post about the priorities of the right wingnut republican controlled Missouri General Assembly:
Why not even the odds…why are you not doing the same on the Democrats? If your really concerned about inflation check on all parties Not just one!
Republicans maintained their supermajority in both chambers of the Missouri General Assembly after Tuesday’s election.
Republicans hold 111 of the 163 seats in the Missouri House and 24 of the 34 seats in the state Senate, according to unofficial election results from the Missouri Secretary of State. Democrats have 52 seats in the House and 10 seats in the Senate. A two-thirds majority in both the House and Senate are needed to override governor vetoes.
Republicans have maintained control of both chambers for the past two decades.
Contemplate the meaning of a “veto proof majority” and how the Missouri General Assembly has operated for the past twenty years. You know, actually pay attention.
Piper For Missouri
It’s been a busy few weeks, so I figured I should compile a list of things that Missouri’s Republican supermajority has done this session to fight inflation and lower costs for Missouri families:
Rule 98. At all times when the House is seated, proper attire for gentlemen shall be business attire, including coat, tie, dress trousers, and dress shoes or boots. Proper attire for women shall be business attire, including jackets worn with dresses, skirts, or slacks, and dress shoes or boots. For the purposes of this rule, “jacket” shall include blazers, cardigans, and knit blazers. This rule shall apply to all members and staff on the floor of the House and lower gallery.
Missouri lawmakers are tightening the dress code for women lawmakers, including specific requirements on how to cover their arms. [….]
Rep. Peter Merideth @PeterforMO
Debating the house rules on the floor today, and the first amendment offered by a Republican is about making stricter the rules of what women have to wear in here. 10:48 AM · Jan 11, 2023
Rep. Peter Merideth @PeterforMO
Yep, the caucus that lost their minds over the suggestion that they should wear masks during a pandemic to respect the safety of others is now spending its time focusing on the fine details of what women have to wear (specifically how to cover their arms) to show respect here. 10:49 AM · Jan 11, 2023
Most people know how proud I am of my hometown. On my worst days in Iraq I used to close my eyes and imagine myself driving around Boone County to visit all my favorite places. Shakespeare’s Pizza, all the soccer fields, the campsites, Murry’s, 9th Street and on and on.
Today I’m announcing that I’m running for the new, open State Senate seat that represents Boone County. I want to make sure that kids in Boone County have the same opportunities growing up that I had, that our communities are safe, the vulnerable are protected, that everyone is welcomed and valued. It’s going to be a long journey (Election Day is in 2024!) but I invite you to come along on it with me. What we have is worth protecting, worth serving and worth growing. Thank you for all your help. Let’s GOOOOOO!
Stephen Webber @s_webber
Politics can be brutal. Politics can rip your heart out.
But sometimes you have an amazing day when hundreds of people from all parts of your life take a moment to tell you how much they care about you. And that’s really cool. And I’m gonna cherish that part this time. Thank you 8:05 PM · Jan 9, 2023
Darin Chappell @DKChappell
I’ve heard the arguments, and examined the data. I am convinced it is time for school choice in Missouri.
No child should be confined to a failing school simply because of his/her zip code. The only decision makers for where a child should be educated are the parents. 12:05 AM · Dec 31, 2022
Some of the responses:
Care to share the data, Darin? I’d love to see it.
Defund public schools, transfer the money to private interests, profit!
I like how easily “school choice” proponents concede to failing schools instead of working to make them better schools.
An F U to the kids that remain at those schools
Fun fact Missouri schools would not be failing if the MO GOP hadn’t been systematically working to defund public education for the last 20+ years.
Dude, you did no research.
Your words do nothing but repeat what the Koch driven school choice people say.
“School Choice” will always be for those that can afford it. Prove me wrong.
You’ve examined the data?
Please share all of it specifically.
Have you really examined the data? If you had, you would see it shows school choice mainly just ends up giving public money to families who are already in private schools. Private schools also don’t do any better academically than public schools when you adjust for income.
If you don’t live in a metropolitan area, where’s the choice?
Wouldn’t be any failing schools if MO would properly fund them.
I see you have the nice Republican/DeVos talking point. Show the data.
Are you for removing tax money from the state to give to private schools that only accept certain students?
That’s how it’s designed to work.
You clearly have NOT examined the data, and I’m skeptical you’ve listened to anyone who opposes the destruction of public education.
Standard conservative policy: starve a public service to the point of failure, point at the system you broke and say “See? It’s broken! Public services don’t work!” then divert the funds to a private model that delivers greater inequality and (bonus!) religious indoctrination.
We have open enrollment available. Also, who will transport students? That costs a lot of money. What about students with disabilities? Private and charter schools don’t have to accept all students. Sit in a classroom all day.
I would also like to see the data. How are we suppose to support an idea or even debate an idea without evidence?
Please share the data. I’ll compare it with the level of funding over the years and see if there’s any correlation. If true, then I would argue that politicians intentionally sabotaged our schools as part of a larger agenda of re-routing public funds to private institutions.
Share the data, please.
We rank 49th in school funding. Can you imagine what we could do if we actually funded our schools and educators?
So shouldn’t the school receive more funding to fix problems rather than abandoning it?
moreadequate | fixed it for you
You want tax dollars to go into the pockets of your rich friends that own private schools, just say it out loud already.
If schools are failing, you’re responsible. The teachers and administrators of any school wants a quality education for all of their students. You have failed to give them the resources to do the job.
“I’ve heard the arguments, and examined the data”, you mean you’ve had your pockets lined? What data are you referring to? FUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS! Missouri is 49th in teacher pay, we have a 6.3 billion dollar surplus. There are NO excuses. FUND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
“I don’t mind condemning disadvantaged people under the guise of helping the “right” people.” Sure friend, sure.
Maybe you should try equitably funding school districts instead of using “school choice” as a crutch for failed Republican policies.
Try using your 20 year GOP Supermajority in Missouri to improve public education instead of destroying it.
They have a plan.
It’s kinda hard for public schools to succeed when states continue to underfund schools and underfund teachers but I know that the long game here!!Its amazing old white conservative so called Christians want to take it back to 1830!
The arguments and data that exist only in your head.
So you don’t care if the schools in Rogersville close? With over 2000 kids that would likely devastate the local economy. As long as you get campaign money though, right?
It’s a scam. Attempting to drive public schools into privatization.
So you’ll write a law to ensure private schools can not charge any amount beyond what the government will pay? Sounds great!
No profit. Not gonna happen.
You made this up. Research shows that public schools offer the best education, are more transparent to parents and provide a sense of community. You’re a charter shill.
School choice doesn’t fix problems. It does absolutely nothing to address why schools are having problems. Terrible policy for lawmakers to take up.
Nope that means the school gets to choose the students.
If you’re a family of 4 living on $32,000/year living north of Rogersville on hwy B, what choice do you have?
1/ I have heard the arguments & examined the data. I’m convinced its time for the state to average the state & local per pupil spending in the 5 highest performing districts in the state & state fund every public district that same combined amt. Put that $6 billion to good use
Public Schools were setup so all ppl regardless of class can attend What is taught there is to be neutral as possible We pay taxes for the whole of society just like infrastructure
If you want something else you pay for it out of pocket This should be the end of that conversation
Curious as to how much in campaign contributions Herzog donated to you?
Official Election Returns
State of Missouri – General Election, November 08, 2022, Tuesday, November 8, 2022
As announced by the Board of State Canvassers on Friday, December 9, 2022
State Representative – District 137 (15 of 15 Precincts Reported)
Darin Chappell Republican 13,708 100.0%
Total Votes 13,708
Also, as a “Conservative Constitutionalist,” what are your feelings on the 3/5 Compromise? Time to bring it back, or does your constitutionalist conservatism only go so far? On that tip: Care to *define* “conservative constitutionalism?” Can you do so using specifics?
Have you considered… I don’t know… funding schools? Like where were you educated?
Heh. Because I are an education expert
So your solution, instead of improving schools, is to take away money from “bad” schools, which are “bad” because they’re already underfunded. For example Kirkwood has the “best” school. Average home value is over 400k. Ranked 100th is aurora R8 where the values are under 200k
So we should follow along cause another MoGOPer says they examined the data? Was the data the amount private companies will make per pupil?
Invest in schools, it is the most efficient and effective way to save and improve public education. Choice takes resources away from many to help a few. Robbing from the needy to help the rich. #SchoolChoice is a failed program.
So the GOP approach to “starve the beast and it will die” approach to eliminate public schools is working it seems.
That’s their plan.
Twenty years of GOP budget cuts on the necks of our kids is the origin. Let’s equalize school fu[n]ding across zip codes then and allow local schools to compete. But then again, that’s not your intent, is it?
Since ‘choice’ is the key word…they will ‘select’ only the best which allows them to look successful…behavior, slower learners, special education students will be not be selected.
The actual purpose is to fund parents that select private and religious schools!
That’s their plan.
What data did you examine? Care to share? Also, what choices do sparsely populated areas have?
So quick question, when parents opt out and go to a “choice” school. Is a bus provided? Before care/ after care? Do you know who will be left behind? Those without the means to get to the “choice” schools.
The data shows that more school funding (and family affluence) contributes to better educational achievement. The answer is to assure ALL schools are adequately funded.
Wow. No hope from you for improving public education in underserved areas? No wonder Missouri has a reputation of being a backwater hell hole. Lazy representatives.
“School Choice” is the “Right to Work” of the “Contract With America” #MObullshit
What a bunch of BS! No taxpayer money should be used for private schools. That is just another means of segregation! Public schools would be better funded if they were a priority, but you only want to educate those that a few legislators think are worthy instead of everyone.
You’re an idiot if you think this gaslighting works!
Please cite the “data”. Otherwise your comments are just more moronic drivel. Your opinions are NOT facts.
Teachers are busy teaching children to survive active shooters in school. I guess we could arm kids with Bibles to throw at a school shooter?
yeppers, nothing says the good book like a glock!! “thout shall always carry guns everywhere especially in schools” corinthians 13 4-8
religion doesn’t belong in our schools, Your beliefs shouldn’t be shoved down others throats.
Our constitution says differently regarding religion…..this leads me to believe you are against our own laws & constitution…..
I don’t think it suggests that it should be taught in schools, I think she is just pandering to morons.
What does this mean as it relates to your responsibility to provide good government for all the people of Missouri, not just those who may agree with you?
Heh. This is Missouri.
Which version of the Bible would you want them to teach from? Does the school board vote on “trespassers” or “debtors”? Can teachers who are divorced lead the prayer? What about *gasp* female teachers who cut their hair and wear pants? Are Catholic, Jewish, and Muslim prayers allowed?
I have so many questions about how you want to incorporate religious studies into public school education.
Mazzie only cares about “her religion” and her interpretation of it. She’d lose her mind if this was suggested by someone of a different faith.
Not every American is a Christian.
And just in case you forgot, AMERICA ISN’T A CHRISTIAN NATION.
I pity you.
Disturbing and unprofessional.
My thoughts and prayers are with your supposed freedom of religion.
A poorly written book of fiction and a handgun?
You would think someone wanting to be a state representative would understand separation of church and state. You would also think they would understand religious freedom. However, I guess that’s asking too much.
I think guns end up in schools way too often
Keep all religion out of our schools! We do NOT want to be like the Taliban!
This is not a Christian nation.
It is a nation in which you are free to be Christian.
what happens when guns do end up in schools? any plans on keeping our kids from mass shootings?
The last thing Missouri needs is another Christofascist in our statehouse.
God this is so cringe
More guns in schools? Brilliant! Needs less mythology though.
Earning some brownie points with your idiot supporters?
This is super lame
you want to use the gun to force people to read the book.
where does jesus tell you to pick up a gun?
whatever justifies your fear-based hatred.
Imagine being this fucking stupid and just announcing it like this.
Piper for Missouri @piper4missouri
The Missouri GOP has had a supermajority for 20 years — look around to see the results. They’ve governed with neglect, corruption, and arrogance. They get elected by promising to fix what they’ve broken. Folks, they aren’t going to do anything except line their own pockets. 3:52 AM · Dec 26, 2022
The first day of the next legislative session of the Missouri General Assembly starts on January 4, 2023. Bill prefiling has commenced in Jefferson City.
“…’Belief-based student association’ includes, but shall not be limited to, any political or ideological student association or any religious student association…”
A bill, prefiled:
102nd General Assembly, 1st Regular Session HB 136 Prohibits public institutions of higher learning from discriminating against a religious student association or denying a religious student association any benefit available to any other student association
Sponsor: Hudson, Brad (138)
Proposed Effective Date: 8/28/2023
LR Number: 0107H.02I
Last Action: 12/01/2022 – Prefiled (H)
Bill String: HB 136
Next House Hearing: Hearing not scheduled
Calendar: Bill currently not on a House calendar
Not exactly. The actual bill language, as introduced:
INTRODUCED BY REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON.
0107H.02I DANA RADEMAN MILLER, Chief Clerk
To amend chapter 173, RSMo, by adding thereto two new sections relating to student
associations at public institutions of higher learning.
Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the state of Missouri, as follows:
Section A. Chapter 173, RSMo, is amended by adding thereto two new sections, to be known as sections 173.1555 and 173.1556, to read as follows:
173.1555. As used in this section and section 173.1556, the following terms mean:
(1) “Adverse action”, any action or policy that denies a belief-based student association any benefit available to other student associations or organizations or that otherwise discriminates with respect to any such benefit;
(2) “Belief-based student association” includes, but shall not be limited to, any political or ideological student association or any religious student association;
(3) “Benefit”, recognition, registration, the use of facilities of a public institution of higher learning for meetings or speaking purposes, the use of channels of communication of a public institution of higher learning, or such other assistance, aid, or advantage as are made available to student associations by a public institution of higher learning;
(4) “Public institution of higher learning”, any state postsecondary educational institution governed or supervised by a board erected under chapter 172, 174, 175, or 178; a board of trustees of a community college; or any state board for any other technical school.
173.1556. 1. (1) No public institution of higher learning shall take any adverse action against a belief-based student association or an applicant to be recognized as such:
(a) Because such association is political, ideological, or religious;
(b) On the basis of such association’s viewpoint or the expression of the viewpoint by the association or the association’s members; or
(c) Based on such association’s requirement that the association’s leaders be committed to furthering the association’s mission or that the association’s leaders adhere to the association’s sincerely held beliefs, sincere practice requirements, or sincere standards of conduct.
(2) Leaders referred to in paragraph (c) of subdivision (1) of this subsection shall include, but not be limited to, any person who holds a position within the association that authorizes such person to participate in the leadership or governance of the association or in establishing criteria for the association’s leadership or governance.
(3) The mission, beliefs, practice requirements, and standards of conduct referred to in paragraph (c) of subdivision (1) of this subsection shall be interpreted as defined by the association.
2. Any belief-based student association or applicant to be recognized as such that has been aggrieved as a result of a violation or threatened violation of subsection 1 of this section may assert that violation or threatened violation as a claim or defense in a judicial proceeding or in an administrative proceeding involving the public institution of higher learning and obtain appropriate relief.