Josh Hawley @HawleyMO
As Democrats have been hoping & begging for, the Commission on Presidential Debates cancelled in-person debates for the rest of campaign. Now cancel the Commission. It’s a disgrace #LetThemDebate 8:00 AM · Oct 8, 2020
Sycophants got to sycophant.
Some of the comments:
During a Kennedy-Nixon debate, each candidate was in a separate studio. Why do the debates have to be in-person? I guess because if the President can’t have it his way, he’ll take his ball and go home.
This is exactly why I left the Republican Party. The old white dudes will be gone soon enough, but the next generation of #GOP is even worse. Republicans are a party of the past – no forward thinking, no big tent. The party is about to implode & they refuse to see it.
The President (and a handful of his closest aids) contracted the coronavirus. Why on earth would you think it’s a good idea to debate in person? Uhh.
Are you serious? Trump has COVID. People who claim to be pro-life sure as hell are cavalier with the lives and health of others.
But they didn’t cancel the debate, Senator. It’s your guy who’s refusing to debate, no matter how you spin it, and he did it so fast that it looks like he’s relieved. Spin that.
Taking your ball and going home, Senator Karen?
Maybe you shoulda prayed harder.
The Commission made the correct decision here. This administration’s failure to be transparent about their positive diagnoses shows they cannot be trusted. No one should want to be near any of them right now.
You think Trump has them on the run after his tour de force performance in the first debate, huh?
Tell us more about the “cancel culture”
Josh hasn’t heard that Trump has COVID.
Yeah, the whole “let’s not risk exposing debate teams, the crew setting up the debates, family and friends, to the coronavirus,” truly is a Dem thing.
How horrible, amiright?
He doesn’t want them to be able to cut him off and switch screens.
Do you just think COVID isn’t a thing?
I wouldn’t want to be in the same room as any soulless disease vectors either.
The president is infected with a contagious and deadly virus bc he did not follow safety guidelines that could have protected himself and others. But he feels 20 years younger bc he was injected with human embryonic stem cells. Thoughts?
Trump is the super spreader. You go stand by him and then go hug your family….is that a good idea?
So let’s talk about the teachings of the Catholic Church: What does the Church say about feeding the hungry? Caring for the sick? Welcoming the stranger? Worshipping gold? Protecting God’s creation Earth? Telling the truth? Paying fair share of taxes? 2/
Using the Lord’s name for your own purpose? Following false prophets? I could go on. Now let’s look at your leader vs the man you’re attacking. Biden is a lifelong Catholic & attends service regularly. Trump gassed Americans to hold a Bible upside down and feuded with the Pope 3/
In fact, the Pope, the leader of the Catholic Church you lie about following, denounced Trump as “not Christian” specifically for his violent cruelty to people. And that was before he set up concentration camps to sterilize women on our border. 4/
So spare us your pharisaical objections while you chant for Barabbas. You worship a man and elevate a Party that is the antithesis to Christianity and all Christ called us to be. end/
Wise men decided a long time ago: “…our Constitution was designed to avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings…”
While we’re at it, NBC’s Chuck Todd is a useless tool.
Senator Bernie Sanders (D) [2016 file photo].
In 2016, at the Missouri State Democratic Convention the four elected positions on the Democratic National Committee (DNC) went to supporters of Bernie Sanders.
In the period since 2016 the DNC revised the 2020 party presidential caucus/primary/convention process to exclude so-called “Super delegates” (Uncommitted Party Leader Elected Official) on the first presidential nominating ballot at the national convention. These PLEO delegates would/can vote if no candidate for the nomination receives 50% + 1 on the first ballot. In addition, as what has always been the case, committed delegates are only bound on the first ballot. After that they can vote for anyone.
The last time a Democratic National Convention went to a subsequent ballot for the nomination of the party’s presidential candidate was 1952.
In 2004, in part of the process in Missouri to elect committed PLEO delegates (by the state party committee), I was asked, in passing, of my interest in running for one of those allocated delegate spots by a representative of a candidate I did not support or vote for in the Missouri primary. I declined. If I had managed to get elected as a delegate I would have been committed to that candidate on the first ballot. If there were any subsequent ballots, in this hypothetical situation, I would have most definitely voted for another candidate.
One of the rules of the delegate selection process is that all candidates have the right of approval for any individual running for one of their national delegate spots. In Missouri these are allocated by formula based on the outcome of the presidential preference primary vote.
In 2016, at the state Democratic Party Convention, 88 individuals filed for eight at-large Hillary national delegate slots. Hillary’s campaign did not strike any individuals from that list. The eight delegate slots were filled by the vote of the Hillary caucus. At the same convention 21 individuals were listed as vying for seven nation delegate slots allocated to Bernie Sanders. I was curious about the disparity. I later learned that over 100 individuals had filed the paper work to run, but the Bernie Sanders national campaign struck most of those individuals from their approved list, without apparently notifying them of the how and why. This upset a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters at the state convention. So much so that there was a motion from the floor to open nominations for national delegate slots from the floor.
Why would a national campaign piss off so many of their supporters? It wasn’t until last night that I finally understood a possible explanation for the underlying why.
In 2016, if, for some reason, the 2016 convention went to a second ballot (brokered), the Bernie Sanders campaign only wanted true believers in their delegate slots. A true believer be more likely to stick with their candidate over multiple ballots, after being released from that first ballot commitment.
Last night NBCs Chuck Todd asked a process question of all of the candidates. If one candidate had a plurality and not 50% + 1, should they be entitled to be the nominee. All of the candidates, but one, replied no, there’s a process in the rules to deal with the selection of a nominee in that situation. The lone dissent: Bernie Sanders.
The irony here is that Bernie Sanders supporters on the DNC (including the four elected from Missouri in 2016) ostensibly voted to approve the caucus/primary/convention rules for 2020, which also removed the vote of uncommitted PLEO delegates on the first ballot.
There is no rule that allows for a plurality of delegates to select the party’s nominee. None.
Here’s a hypothetical situation. Candidate A has 35% of the delegates, candidate B has 30% of the delegates, and candidate C has 21% of the delegates. No one gets to 50% + 1 on the first ballot. Candidate B and C and their delegates come together – one will be the presidential nominee, one will be the vice presidential nominee. On the second ballot they get 51% of the vote. That’s how a subsequent ballot can select the party’s nominee.
After Chuck Todd’s admittedly stupid process question and Bernie Sanders’ dissenting opinion there were discussions on social media, with some Berniebros going on about the unfairness of it all. With the same temperament as the responses from 2016. Think about that for second. Their revolution’s representatives to the DNC ostensibly voted for those rules. Now, somehow, they’re unfair. They feel entitled enough to want to replace their rules midstream with some nonexistent plurality rule. Because.
I like Bernie Sanders. I find his ideas compelling, though he’s not my first choice. I find myself listening to him and appreciating his voice. And then I encounter a significant (not all) number of his supporters, too many, who are serious assholes. [Fuck you if you start in with me, “what about?”] And then I remember 2016 all over again.
There was a Democratic Party presidential candidate debate in Las Vegas, Nevada last night. Who won?:
1. Elizabeth Warren
She’s the one.
@markos “What Warren is doing to Bloomberg? Imagine her doing it to Trump.”
@JoyAnnReid “Elizabeth Warren came to this debate with a clear plan and Bloomberg in her sights and she is executing that plan with authority, and side-swiping her rivals onstage too. It’s honestly not even close. #DebDebate”
@laurenthehough “The thing about @ewarren is she knows, now matter how dead the monster looks, you fucking kill him again.”
@CharlesPPierce “That Warren answer on foreclosure was a serious bit of leadership.”
@tonymess “The invisible one is winning. @ewarren”
@AoDespair “And this, good people, is why Warren Is my first choice. Progressive politics and a taste for the jugular in a political contest that will only get uglier as we march to November. I want her coming off the top rope with a folding chair on Donald Trump.”
@curtismharris “Elizabeth Warren is channeling an inner fury that only comes from grading papers that have no thesis statement.”
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D) [2019 file photo]
2. Joe Biden
Joe’s a nice guy. I like Joe.
Vice President Joe Biden (D) [2014 file photo].
3. Bernie Sanders
@JRubinBlogger “maybe it is Buttigieg or Klobuchar but Bernie’s yelling old man routine is quite noticeably irritating tonight”
If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.
@EricHolthaus “Bernie Sanders: “Mike Bloomberg owns more wealth than the bottom 125 million Americans. That’s wrong. That’s immoral.””
@Johngcole “Bernie is right. You don’t earn a billion dollars. You take it.”
Senator Bernie Sanders (D) [2016 file photo].
4. Amy Klobuchar
@kenklippenstein “buttigieg vs. klobuchar was so much repressed midwestern rage I thought they were gonna open a black hole”
@RachelEPotucek “”Are you saying I’m dumb?” @amyklobuchar calling out @PeteButtigieg’s tone is everything”
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D) [2019 file photo]
5. Pete Buttigieg
@Will_Bunch “Never find someone who hates you the way Amy Klobuchar hates Pete Buttigieg”
@MBersin “Translation: “The two most Jewish candidates on this stage.””
@andizeisler “Listen, some pundits may say that it was unsporting for Elizabeth Warren to kick off this debate by ripping Mike Bloomberg’s arms off and using them to punch him in the dick, but i respectfully disagree”
@MEPFuller “Michael Bloomberg is paying hundreds of millions of dollars to do this to himself.This is what we call a “self-own.””
3,256. Chuck Todd
Useless. The pundit class’ conventional wisdom is going to kill us all.
Former Senator Claire McCaskill (D) [2018 file photo].
This morning, after their polling and reporting yesterday evening erased Elizabeth Warren (D):
Claire McCaskill @clairecmc
This is going to be interesting. Bloomberg on the debate stage tonight. Tune in and join us for pre debate and post debate analysis. @msnbc @BWilliams @NicolleDWallace 6:46 AM · Feb 19, 2020
I just had to respond:
So, is the pre debate analysis going to erase @ewarren? Is the debate coverage going to pixelate her face and mute any of her responses? Just curious. 6:50 AM · Feb 19, 2020