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02 Tuesday Jul 2024

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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Joe Biden (D) [2020 file photo].

Yesterday.

The White House
Washington

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 2, 2024

REMARKS BY PRESIDENT BIDEN
ON THE SUPREME COURT’S IMMUNITY RULING

Cross Hall

(July 1, 2024)

7:45 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good evening.

The presidency is the most powerful office in the world. It’s an office that not only tests your judgment, perhaps even more importantly it’s an office that can test your character because you not only face moments where you need the courage to exercise the full power of the presidency, you also face moments where you need the wisdom to respect the limits of the power of the office of the presidency.

This nation was founded on the principle that there are no kings in America. Each — each of us is equal before the law. No one — no one is above the law, not even the president of the United States.

With today’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed. For all — for all practical purposes, today’s decision almost certainly means that there are virtually no limits on what a president can do.

This is a fundamentally new principle, and it’s a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law, even including the Supreme Court of the United States. The only limits will be self-imposed by the president alone.

This decision today has continued the Court’s attack in recent years on a wide range of long-established legal principles in our nation, from gutting voting rights and civil rights to taking away a woman’s right to choose to today’s decision that undermines the rule of law of this nation.

Nearly four years ago, my predecessor sent a violent mob to the U.S. Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power. We all saw it with our own eyes. We sat there and watched it happen that day. Attack on the police. The ransacking of the Capitol. A mob literally hunting down the House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi. Gallows erected to hang the vice president, Mike Pence. I think it’s fair to say it was one of the darkest days in the history of America.

Now the man who sent that mob to the U.S. Capitol is facing potential criminal conviction for what happened that day. And the American people deserve to have an answer in the courts before the upcoming election. The public has a right to know the answer about what happened on January 6th before they ask to vote again this year.

Now, because of today’s decision, that is highly, highly unlikely. It’s a terrible disservice to the people of this nation.

So, now — now the American people have to do what the Court should have been willing to do but would not. The America people have to render a judgment about Donald Trump’s behavior. The American people must decide whether Donald Trump’s assault on our democracy on January 6th makes him unfit for public office in the highest office in the land. The American people must decide if Trump’s embrace of violence to preserve his power is acceptable.

Perhaps most importantly, the American people must decide if they want to entrust the president — once again, the presidency to Donald Trump, now knowing he’ll be even more emboldened to do whatever he pleases whenever he wants to do it.

You know, at the outset of our nation, it was the character of George Washington, our first president, that defined the presidency. He believed power was limited, not absolute, and that power would always reside with the people — always.

Now, over 200 years later, with today’s Supreme Court decision, once again it will depend on the character of the men and women who hold that presidency that are going to define the limits of the power of the presidency, because the law will no longer do it.

I know I will respect the limits of the presidential power, as I have for three and a half years. But any president, including Donald Trump, will now be free to ignore the law.

I concur with Justice Sotomayor’s dissent today. She — here’s what she said. She said, “In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law. With fear for our democracy, I dissent,” end of quote.

So should the American people dissent. I dissent.

May God bless you all. And may God help preserve our democracy. Thank you. And may God protect our troops.

7:49 P.M. EDT

There is a difference. Vote for the decent person over the Fascist narcissist. That’s your stark choice in November.

John Cole is a steely-eyed missile man…

01 Monday Jul 2024

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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This evening:

While Trump and Roberts and Alito were lighting the Reichstag on fire…
[….]
I’ve already unleashed most of my venom about the scotus decision on twitter. I just don’t have the patience for motherfuckers right now. Shit is all hands on deck. Again, I am a straight white dude in my 50’s who was baptized christian as a childd, and I will be fine in the upcoming Christian caliphate/Fourth Reich/Magadom. And I can not control how other people vote, but if Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans, and the youths want to not support Biden to teach him a lesson, there simply isn’t much I can do. Good luck drinking fracking water, breathing chemicals, and eating poison, and if you are lucky enough to make it, you better have saved some money because they are coming for social security, medicare, and medicaid. They are coming for it all. OSHA is dead, unions are gonna get it next, gay marriage, interracial marriage- it’s all on the fucking table.

I mentioned this on twitter and was immediately accused of “punching down.” Motherfucker, I am not punching anyone. I’m trying to get you to stop punching yourself in the dick and supporting the guy who didn’t fucking use Palestinian as a slur in the debate.

I just can’t with people. Politics is a god damned team sport.
[….]

Previously:

Banana Republic (July 1, 2024)

Banana Republic – Rule of law? What rule of law? (July 1, 2024)

Banana Republic – It’s a cult (July 1, 2024)

Ask me how I feel right now. I dare you. (July 1, 2024)

Banana Republic – It’s a cult

01 Monday Jul 2024

Posted by Michael Bersin in Eric Schmitt, social media, US Senate

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34 felony convictions, Donald Trump, Eric Schmitt, Fascist pig, immunity, missouri, Missouri Supreme Court, presidential immunity, right wingnut, sycophant, U.S. Senate

“…Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop…”

Eric Schmitt
[July 1, 2024]
They thought they could bury Trump and hide Biden.
They were wrong on both accounts.

Fascist pig.

Some of the responses:

Trump buried himself. 30 lies in one debate!

If Trump can get out in front of a Jan 6th crowd & lie about voter machine fraud in Michigan to get them all worked up. Then tweet about his own Vice President which immediately was read to the mob by a loud speaker, having the mob begin to chant “Hang Pence” as they entered the Capital building, I think you’re right. Trumps capable of anything at this point.

That is a very pretty piece of propaganda, but has no more meaning behind it than ‘Plop, plop, fizz, fizz’.

Herr Schmitt has no idea what he is ranting about.

Never before have we had a president say in a debate @i did not have sex with a porn star” ( even though he appears in pictures with her and she and his attorney testified under oath that he did) while his wife was pregnant- what a bunch of SCUM

well for starters the Court more or less handed Trump a Drumhead, since now Biden can in theory go after Trump directly and say ex throw him in Gitmo or have him liquidated under this umbrella of full presidential immunity. Biden need not fear Congress or the Courts since he has been made King with this ruling. He can cancel elections and do essentially what Trump and the Heritage Foundation plan on doing with their Project 2025. So in truth Trump might just have played the wrong card

This why we can’t have nice things.

You misspelled CONVICT and HONOR. Let’s see what spews from your felonious supporting mouth on JULY 11.

34 felony convictions, just to be exact.

Eric Schmitt and his ass kissing

Eric Schmitt (r) [2022 file photo].

Previously:

Banana Republic (July 1, 2024)

Banana Republic – Rule of law? What rule of law? (July 1, 2024)

Banana Republic – Rule of law? What rule of law?

01 Monday Jul 2024

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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“…Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law…”

Today, from Mark Alford (r):

Congressman Mark Alford
[July 1, 2024]
Statement on Supreme Court Upholding Presidential Immunity:
A WIN FOR AMERICA
Today, the United States Supreme Court upheld a vital principle: Presidential Immunity. The Supreme Court’s decision is a resounding victory against the radical left’s relentless efforts to undermine our great institutions and impair the abilities of the future Trump Presidency.
By affirming President Trump’s immunity, the Supreme Court has defended the Office of the President against unjust political harassment and unfair targeting. This political harassment will no longer be normalized. Baseless and politically motivated lawsuits have no place in blocking the cornerstone of democracy in our great nation.
President Trump’s unwavering commitment to the rule of law was applauded through the court’s courage in standing up for what is right for America. His steadfast leadership in the face of unprecedented opposition stands strong. Today’s decision is an inspiration to generations of Americans to stand up for our values and our freedoms.
Today will go down in history as a beacon of hope to all who cherish our nation.
Today marks a landmark decision of triumph for the Constitution.
Today is a win for America.

“How are you ever going to wash the stench of Trump of yourself?”

Mark Alford (r) [2023 file photo].

Some of the responses:

Biden should immediately remove the 6 far right wing justices and declare it an official act.

Heh.

[….] why not? If Presidents can do whatever the hell they want as official acts. I actually believed the court should affirm the President isn’t immune from criminal acts but it’s evident that 6 of them are protecting Trump and are bought and paid for by billionaires. They just declared the President a king. Do you ever stop and listen how stupid Trump sounds. Do you ever think how someone who so easily cheated on everyone of his wives would cheat anyone including his supporters. Do you ever listen to the interviews of his supporters at his hate rallies? They are bat shit crazy. I feel embarrassed for all his supporters.

what? it was OK to you that trump tried to stop the lawful transfer of power? Listen to yourself.

Is stealing an election official. Is J6 official, They’re definitely making some of Trump’s action “legal” even though they were clearly an attempt to steal the election.
This whole thing is to protect Trump without giving Biden too much power.
The corruption of the Republican justices is absolute and they have to be stopped. Expand the Court. All they did was as delay his trial because an insurrection is not an official act.

no it is not.
It was a Trump influenced SCOTUS that did NOT fully address Presidential Immunity.
Yes, it did address (to a point) Immunity for “Official” acts. By doing so, it is carving out acts that are/were clearly illegal for most Americans, but are ok because they are now “Official Acts”.
SCOTUS has proven yet again, that like a number of Politicians, they too are beholden to Trump. Unfortunately, by being so beholden to Trump,
SCOTUS continues to show how they don’t care, nor have the ability to interpret and define law in a fair, just, and equal manner.

Stealing and hiding classified documents is not an official act.
Fraud is not an official act.
Congressman Mark Alford support fraudulent criminals.
End of story–still

Justice delayed is justice denied.

You didn’t read it very close Mark lmfao. And Trump has no respect for the law and that is quite obvious. You’re a joke, sir.

Today marks us one step closer to Putin. Previous presidents resigned rather than move us towards dictatorship.

They had fewer enablers, like Mark (r).

Due to the Supreme Court decision granting extra-constitutional immunity to a former President, Quality of character has never been more important for candidates.
We must elect Presidents with good character, morals and honesty. All else is optional.

How quaint.

Jefferson never wished the President or the Supreme Court vested with this much power. Think about that over Independence Day.

Things that are now legal:
Assassinating your political opponent because they’re a “clear and present threat to national security”
Allocating all tariffs to his or her personal bank account
Taking any bribes they want
Installing all the loyalists and sycophants they need in the military, DOJ, and every other agency and fire any federal employee.
Implementing Project 2025
We will have a KING not a President

Mark Alford (r) considers that a feature, not a bug.

This ruling has granted the complete discretion of what an official act is to the POTUS. The Supreme Court even cites the appointment of a special counsel as something the DOJ doesn’t have the authority to do.
Rather implying that instead a sitting POTUS and fully weaponized their Departments to what the deem within the duties of their office.
The implications of this are far more dangerous than your pea brain can comprehend. As Justice Thomas points out this is now a case-by-case basis.
Right now the Biden Administration has complete authority to hold you and all your colleagues accountable for anything he deems a threat. Including withholding funding to Ukraine and refusing to create a border bill.

You’re just as corrupt as the former President and those conservative judges. The only thing “radical” is viewpoints like yours and the majority of conservatives these days. This Supreme Court will go down in history as the MOST corrupt court.

Previously:

Banana Republic (July 1, 2024)

Banana Republic

01 Monday Jul 2024

Posted by Michael Bersin in Resist

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#resist, Banana Republic, dissent, Donald Trump, presidential immunity, rot, rotten, U.S. Supreme Court

“…Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law…”

“…In the majority’s view, while all other citizens of the United States must do their jobs and live their lives within the confines of criminal prohibitions, the President cannot be made to do so; he must sometimes be exempt from the law’s dictates depending on the character of his conduct. Indeed, the majority holds that the President, unlike anyone else in our country, is comparatively free to engage in criminal acts in furtherance of his official duties…”

The U.S. Supreme Court has made it official.

By a 6-3 right wingnut majority:

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
No. 23–939
DONALD J. TRUMP, PETITIONER v.
UNITED STATES
ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF
APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
[July 1, 2024]

[….]

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE KAGAN and
JUSTICE JACKSON join, dissenting.

[….]

In sum, the majority today endorses an expansive vision of Presidential immunity that was never recognized by the Founders, any sitting President, the Executive Branch, or even President Trump’s lawyers, until now. Settled understandings of the Constitution are of little use to the majority in this case, and so it ignores them.

[….]

The majority relies almost entirely on its view of the danger of intrusion on the Executive Branch, to the exclusion of the other side of the balancing test. Its analysis rests on a questionable conception of the President as incapable of navigating the difficult decisions his job requires while staying within the bounds of the law. It also ignores the fact that he receives robust legal advice on the lawfulness of his actions.

[….]

Finally, in an attempt to put some distance between its official-acts immunity and Trump’s requested immunity, the majority insists that “Trump asserts a far broader immunity than the limited one [the majority has] recognized.” Ante, at 32. If anything, the opposite is true. The only part of Trump’s immunity argument that the majority rejects is the idea that “the Impeachment Judgment Clause requires that impeachment and Senate conviction precede a President’s criminal prosecution.” Ibid. That argument is obviously wrong. See ante, at 32–34. Rejecting it, however, does not make the majority’s immunity narrower than Trump’s. Inherent in Trump’s Impeachment Judgment Clause argument is the idea that a former President who was impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate for crimes involving his official acts could then be prosecuted in court for those acts. See Brief for Petitioner 22 (“The Founders thus adopted a carefully balanced approach that permits the criminal prosecution of a former President for his official acts, but only if that President is first impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate”). By extinguishing that path to overcoming immunity, however nonsensical it might be, the majority arrives at an official acts immunity even more expansive than the one Trump argued for. On the majority’s view (but not Trump’s), a former President whose abuse of power was so egregious and so offensive even to members of his own party that he was impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate still would be entitled to “at least presumptive” criminal immunity for those acts.

[….]

Not content simply to invent an expansive criminal immunity for former Presidents, the majority goes a dramatic and unprecedented step further. It says that acts for which the President is immune must be redacted from the narrative of even wholly private crimes committed while in office. They must play no role in proceedings regarding private criminal acts. See ante, at 30–32.

[….]

Today’s decision to grant former Presidents immunity for their official acts is deeply wrong. As troubling as this criminal immunity doctrine is in theory, the majority’s application of the doctrine to the indictment in this case is perhaps even more troubling. In the hands of the majority, this new official-acts immunity operates as a one-way ratchet.

[….]

The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military oup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.

Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today. Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.

The majority’s single-minded fixation on the President’s need for boldness and dispatch ignores the countervailing need for accountability and restraint. The Framers were not so single-minded. In the Federalist Papers, after “endeavor[ing] to show” that the Executive designed by the Constitution “combines . . . all the requisites to energy,” Alexander Hamilton asked a separate, equally important question: “Does it also combine the requisites to safety, in a republican sense, a due dependence on the people, a due responsibility?” The Federalist No. 77, p. 507 (J. Harvard Library ed. 2009). The answer then was yes, based in part upon the President’s vulnerability to “prosecution in the common course of law.” Ibid. The answer after today is no. Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop.

With fear for our democracy, I dissent.

[SOTOMAYOR, J., dissenting]

Bad combover. Check. Too long red tie. Check. Orange spray tan. Check. Tiny hands. Check. Cluelessness. Check…

And:

[….]

JUSTICE JACKSON, dissenting.

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR has thoroughly addressed the Court’s flawed reasoning and conclusion as a matter of history, tradition, law, and logic. I agree with every word of her powerful dissent. I write separately to explain, as succinctly as I can, the theoretical nuts and bolts of what, exactly, the majority has done today to alter the paradigm of accountability for Presidents of the United States. I also address what that paradigm shift means for our Nation moving forward.

To fully appreciate the profound change the majority has wrought, one must first acknowledge what it means to have immunity from criminal prosecution. Put simply, immunity is “exemption” from the duties and liabilities imposed by law….

[….]

It is indisputable that immunity from liability for wrongdoing is the exception rather than the rule in the American criminal justice system. That is entirely unsurprising, for the very idea of immunity stands in tension with foundational principles of our system of Government. It is a core tenet of our democracy that the People are the sovereign, and the Rule of Law is our first and final security. “[F]rom their own experience and their deep reading in history, the Founders knew that Law alone saves a society from being rent by internecine strife or ruled by mere brute power however disguised.” United States v. Mine Workers, 330 U. S. 258, 308 (1947) (Frankfurter, J., concurring in judgment).

A corollary to that principle sets the terms for this case: “No man in this country is so high that he is above the law. No officer of the law may set that law at defiance with impunity. All the officers of the government, from the highest to the lowest, are creatures of the law, and are bound to obey it.” United States v. Lee, 106 U. S. 196, 220 (1882). We have long lived with the collective understanding that “[d]ecency, security and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commands to the citizen,” for “[i]n a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperilled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously.” Olmstead v. United States, 277 U. S. 438, 485 (1928) (Brandeis, J., dissenting).

[….]

With that understanding of how our system of accountability for criminal acts ordinarily functions, it becomes much easier to see that the majority’s ruling in this case breaks new and dangerous ground. Departing from the traditional model of individual accountability, the majority has concocted something entirely different: a Presidential accountability model that creates immunity—an exemption from criminal law—applicable only to the most powerful official in our Government.

[….]

The majority’s new Presidential accountability model is also distinct insofar as it accepts as a basic starting premise that generally applicable criminal laws do not apply to everyone in our society. In the majority’s view, while all other citizens of the United States must do their jobs and live their lives within the confines of criminal prohibitions, the President cannot be made to do so; he must sometimes be exempt from the law’s dictates depending on the character of his conduct. Indeed, the majority holds that the President, unlike anyone else in our country, is comparatively free to engage in criminal acts in furtherance of his official duties.

That point bears emphasizing. Immunity can issue for Presidents under the majority’s model even for unquestionably and intentionally egregious criminal behavior. Regardless of the nature or the impact of the President’s criminal conduct, so long as he is committing crimes “pursuant to the powers invested exclusively in him by the Constitution,” ante, at 7, or as needed “to carry out his constitutional duties without undue caution,” ante, at 14, he is likely to be deemed immune from prosecution.

[….]

The majority of my colleagues seems to have put their trust in our Court’s ability to prevent Presidents from becoming Kings through case-by-case application of the indeterminate standards of their new Presidential accountability paradigm. I fear that they are wrong. But, for all our sakes, I hope that they are right.

In the meantime, because the risks (and power) the Court has now assumed are intolerable, unwarranted, and plainly antithetical to bedrock constitutional norms, I dissent.

[JACKSON, J., dissenting]

[From 2000.]

Your choice in November is between a Fascist narcissist, blatantly enabled by a right wingnut Supreme Court, and a decent human being. Vote accordingly.

If you’re all atwitter and wringing your hands about an artificial 90 minute televised debate you’re a fucking maroon.

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