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The cults of lost causes

04 Tuesday Jan 2022

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Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, bumper stickers, cult of the lost cause, Donald Trump, missouri, right wingnut, sedition

This morning in west central Missouri:

A century and a half apart – though it’s the same tune.

Celebrating treason for the season

03 Tuesday Jul 2018

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In west central Missouri, along U.S. Highway 50:

The only Confederate flag that ever mattered was a white rag on a stick.

Juxtaposition

14 Saturday Nov 2015

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Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, demonstration, flags, Israel, missouri, open carry, protest

Interesting. I can honestly say I’ve never seen anything quite like it before.

Early this afternoon in west central Missouri:

On an overpass on U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri - November 14, 2015.

On an overpass on U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri – November 14, 2015.

I spoke with one of the participants as the group was taking down their flags and banner (“Arrest Obama”) at the end of their two hour long demonstration. When asked he stated that they had received a mixed response – there were supportive passersby and a few people flipped them off. We spoke of public demonstrations, the First Amendment, the student protests at the University of Missouri, last night’s terrorism in Paris, and Hillary. Apparently they believe we’re next and that Americans will wake up when the inevitable attack occurs. They definitely don’t like Hillary Clinton. I didn’t ask if that was more or less than Obama. They definitely believe in open carry.

Previously:

The Bill of Rights applies to everyone, right? (October 10, 2015)

The Bill of Rights applies to everyone, right?

10 Saturday Oct 2015

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Today at around noon six individuals set up flags and signs on an overpass over U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri, expressing a variety of sentiments in opposition to President Obama and his administration. One sign made reference to Benghazi, several signs referred to constitutional issues, and one sign addressed guns. At least one of the demonstrators was openly carrying a firearm.

Flags and signs at an anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri - October 10, 2015.

Flags and signs at an anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri – October 10, 2015.

Interestingly, of the two individuals holding flags (and there were several flags to choose from) both chose to hold the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, not the U.S. flag, nor the Gadsden flag.

Driver of a passing car: [shouted, while gesturing at the demonstrators] Idiots!

Anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri - October 10, 2015.

Anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri – October 10, 2015.

[….]

Show Me Progress: So, what kind of response are you getting today?

Demonstrator: It’s positive. We normally, uh, we’re with Overpasses for America. Uh, we’re a national organization and, uh, we normally get a very positive response from people. Uh, now and then you might get some people that have some animosity towards us, but normally it’s, uh, positive, so. [horn honking]

Show Me Progress: So, um, uh, are you from this area?

Demonstrator: Uh, [….] from, uh, this area. I’m from Kansas City.

Show Me Progress: Uh, huh.

Demonstrator: Uh, I think the rest of them are from Warrensburg.

Show Me Progress: Uh, okay. Uh, so [horn honking], um, why out here today, just…?

Demonstrator: Well, we, we go all over the state. Like I said, we’re national, and right now I’m, uh, uh, [….] and I are having this, uh, right here in Warrensburg. We come down here periodically. We just want to make sure that we have plenty of exposure for people to see us, or organization, and know that we’re out here and we’re protesting against this present administration, the, uh, criminal activities that they’re doing, not following our Constitution.

[….]

Demonstrator: ….Police officers in the area are usually real receptive to us. They watch for us, make sure that nobody harasses us or bothers us.

Show Me Progress: They tend to, they tend to do that no matter what anybody’s point of view [cross talk] is.

Demonstrator: Well, you’re [crosstalk] right.

Show Me Progress: And they’re really, real good about that because [crosstalk]…

Demonstrator: Well, not always.

Show Me Progress: Oh, really?

Demonstrator: I’ve been in places where we’ve had problems…

[….]

Demonstrator:…And, uh, if we don’t exercise our rights we’re gonna lose them. And that’s what we’re out here doing.

The local constabulary drive past an anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri - October 10, 2015

The local constabulary driving past an anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri – October 10, 2015

Uh, if you’re relying on the local police to protect you from harassers and botherers, why open carry? The First Amendment is a two way street, right? Just asking.

Mixed messages? Anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri - October 10, 2015.

Mixed messages? Anti-Obama demonstration on an overpass over U.S. Highway 50 in Warrensburg, Missouri – October 10, 2015.

In the several hundred vigils, demonstrations and protest marches I attended starting in 2003 I don’t ever recall a participant openly carrying a firearm. I do recall cooperative law enforcement officials working to ensure peaceful demonstrations in which participants could safely exercise their First Amendment rights. I also vividly recall harassers and botherers, most who didn’t cross the line.

So, where were today’s folks twelve years ago? Right…

Mixed message

27 Monday Jul 2015

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