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Conversations like this are taking place today in courthouses across Missouri and America

26 Friday Jun 2015

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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gay marriage, Jan Jones, marriage equality, missouri, Recorder of Deeds, Supreme Court

A little under an hour after this morning’s marriage equality ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court we stopped by the courthouse in Warrensburg to speak with Jan Jones, Johnson County Recorder of Deeds about the immediate impact of the ruling. Marriage licenses are issued by county recorders. As we were waiting to speak with the recorder a patron entered the office to inquire about getting a marriage license.

The office of Recorder of Deeds in the courthouse in Johnson County, Missouri.

Show Me Progress: So, you, you’ve shown up here today for the Johnson County Courthouse in Missouri, uh, for the Recorder to see if you can get a marriage license for same sex marriage.

Patron at Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds office: Correct.

Show Me Progress: So, uh, you, you just heard about the Supreme Court ruling?

Patron: Yes.

Show Me Progress: And so you decided to come out here?

Patron: Right.

[….]

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  Good morning.

Patron: Good morning. I guess we have a popular question for you.

[….]

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  And what’s your question?

Patron: I know it’s just passed, but what’s Johnson County doing? Is it gonna be the same application process, everything’s gonna be the same as it always has?

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  What we do here in the office will be the same…

Patron:  Okay.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  …you know, as far as people coming in.

Patron: I was just making sure she was handing me the right brochure. I didn’t know if you guys were gonna change one or what.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  Well, I’m kind of glad you said something about changing it. As soon as, what we’re waiting for right now, it was just issued.

Patron: Okay. Right, right.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  Right.

Patron: I know things don’t happen [finger snap].

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  Right.

Patron: I know, I understand.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds:  Our, our association attorney is reviewing, um, the ruling…

Patron: Okay.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: And will have instructions for all Missouri recorders, uh, probably by noon today. That’s her goal.

Patron: Okay.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: That will tell us exactly when it’s effective, you know. We don’t think it’s immediate. Could be next business day, we think it’s going to be the twenty-five days, but we don’t know that.

[….]

We can take the application, have you all sign it, we hold it in the drawer, and then when the, the magic day happens then we can issue the license and you can leave here with the license and go to whomever’s going to marry you.

Patron: Okay.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: Okay?

Patron: Okay. That sounds like a plan. We’re gonna make that happen then.

[….]

I just didn’t know if anything was gonna change because I don’t.  You wouldn’t think and you wouldn’t think it would take ’em long due to the fact there’s other states that have, so.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: Right. We’re ready to go. We just need, you know, we have, things have changed, we just need the attorney to say this is the day that we can begin issuing. So, soon as I hear back I can give you a call, let you know what they’ve told me, and we’ll move from there.

Patron: Thank you very much.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: You’re welcome.

Patron: It’s a big day.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: Yes, it is.

Patron: Believe it or not, I actually cried when the news…

[….]

Show Me Progress: …there’s actually some states already that are issuing.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: Yes, I saw where Ohio…

Show Me Progress: Yeah, Ohio is issuing, so…

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: And we might be issuing on Monday…

[….]

Show Me Progress: And so you’re, you’re prepared to, um, once you get the directives that you can operate and you’re prepared to start issuing licenses.

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: Yes, yes, we’ve got our system ready to go. We’ve updated the system so that we can take gender and the gender, the system, won’t stop us from having two of the same.

Show Me Progress: So, So the system is already set so that you can…?

Jan Jones, Johnson County, Missouri Recorder of Deeds: Yeah. We’re ready to go.

[….]

Previously:

Marriage Equality in America (June 26, 2015)

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