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Norman Rockwell ain’t got nothin’ on the real Kansas City – part 3

07 Saturday Sep 2013

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Speaking out at Representative Emanuel Cleaver’s (D) town hall on military intervention in Syria – Kansas City – September 5, 2013.

On Thursday evening in Kansas City Representative Emanuel Cleaver (D) held an open town hall on military intervention in Syria. After brief introductory remarks Congressman Cleaver opened up the microphone to anyone who wanted to speak on the subject. People did so, one after another, for almost two hours.

….Thank you. I’m the mother of two really beautiful children. And, this feels good, Democracy. And I’d appreciate it if you’d do more of these town halls because it’s the first time we’ve felt like anybody really cared about our opinion.

Um, there’s a commercial that’s coming on TV, and my daughters and I are talking about it, in which an assassin is asked if she can’t find more nonviolent ways to achieve her objectives. And she replies, when you’re a hammer everything looks like a nail.

My concern is I went to one of the best scientific institutions in the United States, MIT, and I know that we have some of the greatest minds in the United States. And I’m wondering why our first response is violence and not looking at all of the other amazing strategies that we could use first.

The second is, we are terribly bad at taking out bad regime and not thinking about who’s going to  fill that vacuum. [applause]  We’ve been there, we’ve done that.

The, the last point is, I don’t understand why we talk about nonviolence in our own country, why Congress couldn’t do something to protect schools and children that get shot up every day. But our first response is to go out and do a surgical strike?

So, I think we should do something. I know enough of my history and I’m as old as I look, so I do understand the War Powers Act [laughter]. But I think we should do something because people are dying. But there will be more people dying when we go over.

So, I’m saying as a voter and a taxpayer, no unilateral action without a call of the [United Nations] General Assembly. We will not act alone. We will act, but we will act responsibly. So as our representative we’re asking you to hear us. This is a very difficult situation. We know that. But, our answer for right now is no. [applause]

Previously:

Suppose they gave a town hall before rushing off to war and everybody came (September 5, 2013)

Norman Rockwell ain’t got nothin’ on the real Kansas City (September 5, 2013)

Norman Rockwell ain’t got nothin’ on the real Kansas City – part 2 (September 6, 2013)

A short interview with Rep. Cleaver after last night’s town hall (September 6, 2013)

Norman Rockwell ain’t got nothin’ on the real Kansas City – part 2

06 Friday Sep 2013

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Last night Representative Emanuel Cleaver (D) held an open town hall in Kansas City on a campus of Metropolitan Community College. The topic was military intervention in Syria. People waited in line at the microphoneto express their opinions, and then did so, at this almost two hour long town hall.

Previously:

Suppose they gave a town hall before rushing off to war and everybody came (September 5, 2013)

Norman Rockwell ain’t got nothin’ on the real Kansas City (September 5, 2013)

Representative Emanuel Cleaver (D) listening to constituents at his town hall on military intervention in Syria – September 5, 2013.

Welcome to the real America.

Norman Rockwell ain’t got nothin’ on the real Kansas City

06 Friday Sep 2013

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This evening Representative Emanuel Cleaver (D) held an open town hall in Kansas City on a campus of Metropolitan Community College. This town hall was reportedly one of the few open town halls, if not, the only, held by a member of Congress on the subject of American military action in Syria. The room was packed. The media presence was heavy, including a crew from ITN in Great Britain.

Representative Emanuel Cleaver (D) at his town hall on military intervention in Syria – held in Kansas City – September 5, 2013.

The town hall was scheduled to run from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. It went for close to two hours.

Representative Cleaver spoke for a few minutes and then stood and listened to comments, and sometimes questions, from people in the audience who waited in line to speak at the microphone.

Most of the time speakers stayed on the subject. Most of the time. At times some rambled, some were nervous, some were angry, some were introspective, some pleaded, some offered other solutions, some despaired of any solution, some pointed out the monetary cost, some pointed out the human cost, and on and on.

We heard from people who had lived in the region, from people who were from the region, and from people who had family and friends in the region.

We heard from veterans. We heard from pacifists. The two groups were not mutually exclusive.

The audience and speakers were diverse politically – we heard comments ranging from the lunatic fringe and paranoid right, to the activist left. We learned about a couple of conspiracy theories we had never encountered before. Representative Cleaver listened respectfully, occasionally offering a short answer or comment, but mostly listening.

Now that’s the real America.

Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r): Syriously

04 Wednesday Sep 2013

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Representative Vicky Hartzler (r) has weighed in on Syria, sort of. Today, via Twitter:

Rep. Vicky Hartzler ‏@RepHartzler

I have deep concerns over US military involvement in #Syria. Before I vote, I want to know your opinion. Tweet back your thoughts. 10:42 AM – 3 Sep 13

Evidently, Bibi doesn’t have that much influence.

Previously:

Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r): What about that Syria thing? (September 1, 2013)

President Obama: calling on Congress to debate and vote on use of military force in Syria (August 31, 2013)

Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r): What about that Syria thing?

01 Sunday Sep 2013

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Representative Vicky Hartzler’s (r) Twitter and Facebook accounts are silent on Syria, unless you read constituent comments on a post about an unrelated event in the district. A sample:

….Representative Hartzler, I oppose the US taking ANY action in Syria. I would request that when you decide how you are going to vote on giving the President authority for any kind of strike, that you please not only share your position by newsletter, but that you also post that position here so your constituents know where you stand and why. Thank you.

….Since you are my representative, I am letting you know as a former vet, the wife and mother of soldier, not me only, but the troops are sick and tired of fighting these “wars” for you people to further your agenda! Strongly oppose ANY intervention into Syria! You have been very quiet about where you stand on this issue. And I would ask the people in our district to find a real legit. challenger to you for the next race as you do not represent the people, but the farmers and your own agenda!

It’s notable, also in the comments, that the teabagger base is not particularly interested in U.S. intervention in Syria.

Such a dilemma, reconciling the intent of President Obama, the interests of the military industrial complex, and the views of the isolationist right.

There is no mention of Syria in Representative Hartzler’s (r) weekly newsletter for August 24-30, 2013, though she did indicate in an interview posted on August 30th that she wanted Congress to weigh in on the issue.

What would Bibi want?

President Obama: calling on Congress to debate and vote on use of military force in Syria

31 Saturday Aug 2013

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President Obama. [2012 file photo]

This afternoon, at the White House:

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release

August 31, 2013

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT ON SYRIA

Rose Garden

1:52 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT:  Good afternoon, everybody.  Ten days ago, the world watched in horror as men, women and children were massacred in Syria in the worst chemical weapons attack of the 21st century.  Yesterday the United States presented a powerful case that the Syrian government was responsible for this attack on its own people.

Our intelligence shows the Assad regime and its forces preparing to use chemical weapons, launching rockets in the highly populated suburbs of Damascus, and acknowledging that a chemical weapons attack took place.  And all of this corroborates what the world can plainly see — hospitals overflowing with victims; terrible images of the dead.  All told, well over 1,000 people were murdered.  Several hundred of them were children — young girls and boys gassed to death by their own government.

This attack is an assault on human dignity.  It also presents a serious danger to our national security.  It risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemical weapons.  It endangers our friends and our partners along Syria’s borders, including Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq.  It could lead to escalating use of chemical weapons, or their proliferation to terrorist groups who would do our people harm.

In a world with many dangers, this menace must be confronted.

Now, after careful deliberation, I have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets.  This would not be an open-ended intervention.  We would not put boots on the ground.  Instead, our action would be designed to be limited in duration and scope.  But I’m confident we can hold the Assad regime accountable for their use of chemical weapons, deter this kind of behavior, and degrade their capacity to carry it out.

Our military has positioned assets in the region.  The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has informed me that we are prepared to strike whenever we choose.  Moreover, the Chairman has indicated to me that our capacity to execute this mission is not time-sensitive; it will be effective tomorrow, or next week, or one month from now.  And I’m prepared to give that order.

But having made my decision as Commander-in-Chief based on what I am convinced is our national security interests, I’m also mindful that I’m the President of the world’s oldest constitutional democracy.  I’ve long believed that our power is rooted not just in our military might, but in our example as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.  And that’s why I’ve made a second decision:  I will seek authorization for the use of force from the American people’s representatives in Congress.

Over the last several days, we’ve heard from members of Congress who want their voices to be heard.  I absolutely agree. So this morning, I spoke with all four congressional leaders, and they’ve agreed to schedule a debate and then a vote as soon as Congress comes back into session.

In the coming days, my administration stands ready to provide every member with the information they need to understand what happened in Syria and why it has such profound implications for America’s national security.  And all of us should be accountable as we move forward, and that can only be accomplished with a vote.

I’m confident in the case our government has made without waiting for U.N. inspectors.  I’m comfortable going forward without the approval of a United Nations Security Council that, so far, has been completely paralyzed and unwilling to hold Assad accountable.  As a consequence, many people have advised against taking this decision to Congress, and undoubtedly, they were impacted by what we saw happen in the United Kingdom this week when the Parliament of our closest ally failed to pass a resolution with a similar goal, even as the Prime Minister supported taking action.

Yet, while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective.  We should have this debate, because the issues are too big for business as usual.  And this morning, John Boehner, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell agreed that this is the right thing to do for our democracy.

A country faces few decisions as grave as using military force, even when that force is limited.  I respect the views of those who call for caution, particularly as our country emerges from a time of war that I was elected in part to end.  But if we really do want to turn away from taking appropriate action in the face of such an unspeakable outrage, then we just acknowledge the costs of doing nothing.

Here’s my question for every member of Congress and every member of the global community:  What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price?  What’s the purpose of the international system that we’ve built if a prohibition on the use of chemical weapons that has been agreed to by the governments of 98 percent of the world’s people and approved overwhelmingly by the Congress of the United States is not enforced?

Make no mistake — this has implications beyond chemical warfare.  If we won’t enforce accountability in the face of this heinous act, what does it say about our resolve to stand up to others who flout fundamental international rules?  To governments who would choose to build nuclear arms?  To terrorist who would spread biological weapons?  To armies who carry out genocide?

We cannot raise our children in a world where we will not follow through on the things we say, the accords we sign, the values that define us.

So just as I will take this case to Congress, I will also deliver this message to the world.  While the U.N. investigation has some time to report on its findings, we will insist that an atrocity committed with chemical weapons is not simply investigated, it must be confronted.

I don’t expect every nation to agree with the decision we have made.  Privately we’ve heard many expressions of support from our friends.  But I will ask those who care about the writ of the international community to stand publicly behind our action.

And finally, let me say this to the American people:  I know well that we are weary of war.  We’ve ended one war in Iraq.  We’re ending another in Afghanistan.  And the American people have the good sense to know we cannot resolve the underlying conflict in Syria with our military.  In that part of the world, there are ancient sectarian differences, and the hopes of the Arab Spring have unleashed forces of change that are going to take many years to resolve.  And that’s why we’re not contemplating putting our troops in the middle of someone else’s war.

Instead, we’ll continue to support the Syrian people through our pressure on the Assad regime, our commitment to the opposition, our care for the displaced, and our pursuit of a political resolution that achieves a government that respects the dignity of its people.

But we are the United States of America, and we cannot and must not turn a blind eye to what happened in Damascus.  Out of the ashes of world war, we built an international order and enforced the rules that gave it meaning.  And we did so because we believe that the rights of individuals to live in peace and dignity depends on the responsibilities of nations.  We aren’t perfect, but this nation more than any other has been willing to meet those responsibilities.

So to all members of Congress of both parties, I ask you to take this vote for our national security.  I am looking forward to the debate.  And in doing so, I ask you, members of Congress, to consider that some things are more important than partisan differences or the politics of the moment.

Ultimately, this is not about who occupies this office at any given time; it’s about who we are as a country.  I believe that the people’s representatives must be invested in what America does abroad, and now is the time to show the world that America keeps our commitments.  We do what we say.  And we lead with the belief that right makes might — not the other way around.

We all know there are no easy options.  But I wasn’t elected to avoid hard decisions.  And neither were the members of the House and the Senate.  I’ve told you what I believe, that our security and our values demand that we cannot turn away from the massacre of countless civilians with chemical weapons.  And our democracy is stronger when the President and the people’s representatives stand together.

I’m ready to act in the face of this outrage.  Today I’m asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are ready to move forward together as one nation.

Thanks very much.

                       END                2:02 P.M. EDT

The current do nothing Congress is going to have to do something.

Consider this – having a debate in Congress about an authorization for the use of military force in Syria makes a congressional debate about not raising the national debt and/or shutting down the government appear what it is – crass political posturing. Or, a 41st vote in the House defunding Obamacare, if you will. Congress wanted to not do anything about Syria and then complain. Now they won’t be able to do either. That’s 11th dimension chess at its finest. Well played Mr. President, well played.

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