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Lilly Ledbetter (1938-2024)

13 Sunday Oct 2024

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Lilly Ledbetter, an activist for pay equality, has passed away.

Lilly Ledbetter dead at 86: Alabama worker’s legal fight led Obama to sign Fair Pay Act of 2009

Lilly Ledbetter [2013 file photo].

In 2013 in Warrensburg, Missouri:

[….]
Question: Do you think part of that is, you know, it’s not polite to talk about money, it’s not polite to ask people what they make, I mean? [Lilly Ledbetter: “Sure”] Do those conversations need to be more prevalent between coworkers or?

Lilly Ledbetter: Well, see Goodyear said if we discussed our pay, that’s the reason I didn’t know [voice: “Yeah.”], I honestly didn’t know. I mean, that’s one thing people do when your job is threatened, you will not do anything to get, to lose it. And, uh, I didn’t know. And, and guessing I knew, common sense told me, since they had had so few women and they still had so few women they would prefer not to have them. So I knew that I wasn’t getting exactly what the men were, but if I had been in reason. There were years that I made below the minimum. And the lady who testified on my behalf at trial and had left and so had twenty-two years seniority and service, she was making below the minimum as an area manager, the same job I had. Below the minimum. That’s not right.

Question: But, do you think that, you know, companies at that time encouraged sort of the idea that not talking about salaries, because this would basically cause people to say, “Wait a minute, I’m not,” you know?

Voice: Exactly.

Lilly Ledbetter: It is. They think it’s [crosstalk] internally.

Question: The culture, yeah, the, the culture is encouraged generally [crosstalk] and so it, it works in…
[….]

From the 2007 dissent by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg at the U.S. Supreme Court:

LEDBETTER v. GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER CO. (No. 05-1074)
421 F. 3d 1169, affirmed.

Ginsburg, J., dissenting

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
LILLY M. LEDBETTER, PETITIONER v. THE GOOD-
YEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY, INC.

[….]
[May 29, 2007]

[….]
The problem of concealed pay discrimination is particularly acute where the disparity arises not because the female employee is flatly denied a raise but because male counterparts are given larger raises. Having received a pay increase, the female employee is unlikely to discern at once that she has experienced an adverse employment decision. She may have little reason even to suspect discrimination until a pattern develops incrementally and she ultimately becomes aware of the disparity. Even if an employee suspects that the reason for a comparatively low raise is not performance but sex (or another protected ground), the amount involved may seem too small, or the employer’s intent too ambiguous, to make the issue immediately actionable—or winnable.
[….]
To show how far the Court has strayed from interpretation of Title VII with fidelity to the Act’s core purpose, I return to the evidence Ledbetter presented at trial. Ledbetter proved to the jury the following: She was a member of a protected class; she performed work substantially equal to work of the dominant class (men); she was compensated less for that work; and the disparity was attributable to gender-based discrimination. See supra, at 1–2.

Specifically, Ledbetter’s evidence demonstrated that her current pay was discriminatorily low due to a long series of decisions reflecting Goodyear’s pervasive discrimination against women managers in general and Ledbetter in particular. Ledbetter’s former supervisor, for example, admitted to the jury that Ledbetter’s pay, during a particular one-year period, fell below Goodyear’s minimum threshold for her position. App. 93–97.Although Goodyear claimed the pay disparity was due to poor performance, the supervisor acknowledged that Ledbetter received a “Top Performance Award” in 1996. Id., at 90–93. The jury also heard testimony that another supervisor—who evaluated Ledbetter in 1997 and whose evaluation led to her most recent raise denial—was openly biased against women. Id., at 46, 77–82. And two women who had previously worked as managers at the plant told the jury they had been subject to pervasive discrimination and were paid less than their male counterparts. One was paid less than the men she supervised. Id., at 51–68. Ledbetter herself testified about the discriminatory animus conveyed to her by plant officials. Toward the end of her career, for instance, the plant manager told Ledbetter that the “plant did not need women, that [women] didn’t help it, [and] caused problems.” Id., at 36.10 After weighing all the evidence, the jury found for Ledbetter, concluding that the pay disparity was due to intentional discrimination.
[….]

Previously:

Lilly Ledbetter – Politics and Social Justice – April 3, 2013 (April 4, 2013)

Lilly Ledbetter: a short coda (April 7, 2013)

Lilly Ledbetter: a short coda

07 Sunday Apr 2013

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Previously:

Lilly Ledbetter – Politics and Social Justice – April 3, 2013 (April 4, 2013)

Lilly Ledbetter.

Lilly Ledbetter was on the campus of the University of Central Missouri in Warrensburg on April 3, 2013 as a featured speaker for “Politics and Social Justice Week”. After the close of her afternoon press conference she continued to speak with media:

Voice: ….Sometimes people don’t think about the long range impact [crosstalk], about how it’s going to affect…

Lilly Ledbetter:  And my husband died. They didn’t take that into calculation when they stood, if they, and they, they still look at women, “Well, she’s got a husband.” And I still talk to young people, why are we still talking about men’s jobs and women’s jobs? Why don’t we say “a job”? This is a….if you got a job on this campus you’ve got a description. And you’ve got an education requirement, you’ve got an experience requirement, you’ve got all of those things printed out. And when you start looking at that you want to find the best qualified person. You shouldn’t care what color, what sex, what country, or anything, as long as they’re a citizen here.  And pick, select the best person. It’s still, it’s, that’s what my neighbor asked me. What was I doing in that man’s job? It wasn’t a man’s job.

Voices: It’s a job. It’s just a job.

Lilly Ledbetter:  It’s a job.

Question: Do you think part of that is, you know, it’s not polite to talk about money, it’s not polite to ask people what they make, I mean? [Lilly Ledbetter: “Sure”] Do those conversations need to be more prevalent between coworkers or?

Lilly Ledbetter:  Well, see Goodyear said if we discussed our pay, that’s the reason I didn’t know [voice: “Yeah.”], I honestly didn’t know. I mean, that’s one thing people do when your job is threatened, you will not do anything to get, to lose it. And, uh, I didn’t know. And, and guessing I knew, common sense told me, since they had had so few women and they still had so few women they would prefer not to have them. So I knew that I wasn’t getting exactly what the men were, but if I had been in reason. There were years that I made below the minimum. And the lady who testified on my behalf at trial and had left and so had twenty-two years seniority and service, she was making below the minimum as an area manager, the same job I had. Below the minimum. That’s not right.

Question: But, do you think that, you know, companies at that time encouraged sort of the idea that not talking about salaries, because this would basically cause people to say, “Wait a minute, I’m not,” you know?

Voice: Exactly.

Lilly Ledbetter: It is. They think it’s [crosstalk] internally.

Question: The culture, yeah, the, the culture is encouraged generally [crosstalk] and so it, it works in…

Lilly Ledbetter:  Yeah. See, Senator Tom Harkin has a bill that would require corporations, uh, to just post. See, when cost of living increases, you know, I may hire in on an area manager’s job or supervisor, and here was the job pay structure. This was what I knew I might get some day if I topped out. But, later on, when cost of living increased, the top, and the mid, and the bottom, I couldn’t find out because the company never posted it. It was a big secret. [voices: “Yeah.”] No one knew. And no one ever knew what the maximum was. In fact, every once in a while, I later found out, that some, one or two of the men had made, gotten so much money until they no longer  got qualified for the overtime. Because their salaries were so great, until, even if they did work over they still was over what the union people was getting. It’s, and it’s not, see, and I don’t understand, simply, and I know that I’m not up to think on that level, but, uh, it’s probably why I never had a higher job [laughter], but, the union people’s salaries, everybody knows what the union people make. And most of your state and federal, schools and jobs, they all know what everybody makes. [voice: “It’s a public record.”] Now sometimes they make it a little harder to find out, but you can find out. And, and it doesn’t seem to bother people. So, I, I don’t, I don’t know. And it just, you know, women, when we get our pay, we go out into the community, we’ll spend it. We’ll buy better food, we’ll buy better clothing, we may trade cars, we may buy big, and those kids will have a better education and better health care. And it benefits the community, the state, and the nation.

Voice: And, ultimately, a more secure retirement.

Lilly Ledbetter:  That’s right. That’s right. And then the government doesn’t have to kick in and keep everybody up.

Voices: Exactly. Exactly.

Voice: Thank you all for…

Lilly Ledbetter:  Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you very much, enjoyed it.

Sharing a passage from Lilly Ledbetter’s (right) “Grace and Grit” at a late evening reception.

Lilly Ledbetter – Politics and Social Justice – April 3, 2013

04 Thursday Apr 2013

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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Lilly Ledbetter, missouri, paycheck fairness

Lilly Ledbetter spoke on the campus of the University of Central Missouri in Warrensburg last night as part of Politics and Social Justice Week:

…Ledbetter was a supervisor for Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. in Alabama from 1979 to 1998. Following her retirement, she sued the company for paying her less than her male counterparts during her employment with company.

The case made it to the U.S. Supreme Court, where her claim was denied. However, her leadership and advocacy efforts helped to advance the passage of the 2009 Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act by the U.S. Congress, an amendment to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the first piece of legislation signed into law by President Barack Obama…

Lilly Ledbetter on the campus of the University of Central Missouri in Warrensburg on April 3, 2013.

Early in the afternoon Lilly Ledbetter spoke with media:

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