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Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r): Clinton town hall – April 5, 2012 – part 1

06 Friday Apr 2012

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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2012, 4th Congressional District, Clinton, missouri, Teresa Hensley, town hall, Vicky Hartzler

Representative Vicky Hartzler (r) has scheduled eighteen town halls and “meet and greet” events across the 4th Congressional District over the first week and a half of April. The event I attended in Clinton, Missouri today was advertised as a “meet and greet” as opposed to the town halls in some of the other locations. This event was effectively a scaled down town hall meeting, but since the attendance was so sparse, if you had a question you were going to have an opportunity to ask it.

Representative Hartzler worked the room (that didn’t take very long), then spoke for approximately twelve minutes, then took questions for another eighteen or so minutes.

Before Representative Hartzler arrived a few individuals spoke with staff, including everyone within earshot, about some of their concerns.

Among the first to arrive was an older couple. The gentleman stated, “One thing I’m concerned about is military absentee ballots. The Democrats did all they could to keep these folks from voting.”

I kid you not.

Later, a woman accompanied by her teenage son, said, “Gas prices. The price is too high. The government is hoarding gas. Is that true? Schools are cutting back sports. They can’t afford to get teams to places.”

Apparently, insufficient tax revenue for the school district (either due to the economic downturn, or an inability to get people to vote for tax increases, or both) has nothing to do with those cuts.

We’re doomed.

Representative Vicky Hartzler (r) speaking with a constituent before the start of her town hall in Clinton, Missouri on April 5, 2012.

Some of the twenty or so individuals attending Representative Vicky Hartzler’s (r) Clinton, Missouri town hall.

Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r): town halls in Clinton and Warrensburg

11 Thursday Aug 2011

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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4th Congressional District, Clinton, missouri, town halls, Vicky Hartzler, Warrensburg

Representative Vicky Hartzler (r) held a series of town halls today in the 4th Congressional District. We attended the afternoon town halls in Clinton and Warrensburg. There were approximately eighty-five to ninety people attending in Clinton and near one hundred in Warrensburg. There were dissenting views and push back at both town halls, but the one in Warrensburg was by far the more raucous.

Representative Vicky Hartzler (r) in Clinton, Missouri.

At the Warrensburg event, via Twitter:

@MBersin Michael Bersin

At Rep.Vicky Hartzler (r) town hall in Warrensburg. Was in Clinton at 3 pm. Around 90 in crowd there. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Around 90 in audience for Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r) town hall in Warrensburg. man in audience asks to pass up powerpoint and going to Q and A. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r) town hall – Warrensburg: no go on passing up powerpoint. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg; challenge from audience on Social Security as part of the general budget revenue. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: audience is getting raucus. One asked people to raise hands in favor of raising taxes. Many did.

2 hours ago

Yeah, yeah, we know, it’s spelled raucous.

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall: Audience members challenging her on almost every point. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Audience member – why don’t you raise taxes? Other asks why don’t you pay more? Responds, I would 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: pushing balanced budget amendment. Cites State of Missouri. 2 hours ago

@SharkFu SharkFu

Cause it works so well here? Christ. MT @MBersin Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: pushing balanced budget amend. Cites Missouri. 2 hours ago

@BroceliandF Broce

@SharkFu @MBersin My head hurts. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: turns to jobs (sarcastic comments from audience). 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: pushing regulatory reform so smal business will create jobs. Nothing about a lack of demand. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Oh, no. She pushed the light bulb issue. And the true believers applauded. Others groaned. 2 hours ago

@geekdetails Amanda Roberts

@MBersin light bulb issue? 2 hours ago

@SharkFu SharkFu

groans MT @MBersin Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: She pushed the light bulb issue. True believers applauded. Others groaned. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

@geekdetails Light bulbs. bit.ly/q1rvo5 Seriously. Our political discourse is driven by whack jobs. 48 minutes ago

@geekdetails Amanda Roberts

@MBersin … wow 6 minutes ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Challenged on corporate taxes. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Agrees that some corporate loopholes are bad. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Audience member disappointed in Congress Cantor (r) should not have walked away from Pres. Obama. 2 hours ago

MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Wbg: supporter criticizes those who spoke out as rude. Forgot about teabaggers and health care town halls? 2 hours ago

Yep? Or, *IOKIYAR?

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: People forgetting about the Clinton years. Higher marginal tax rates and budget surplus. Whoops. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: People demagogue on Social Security? 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: When I go to Wal-Mart to shop it costs more. Non-union shop. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Audience member advocating tariff war and stop illegal immigration. Forgetting Georgia crops, 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Q on Jobs – Answer criticizes stimulus and regulations.And advocates trade agreements. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Q what have republicans done? Ans created jobs. Audience members laugh. 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: Q Why did you sign the Grover Norquist pledge? 2 hours ago

@MBersin Michael Bersin

Rep. Hartzler (r) townhall in Warrensburg: finished on a conspiracy theory Q about the Iraqi Dinar (currency). I kid you not. 2 hours ago

Some true believer bumper stickers in Clinton, Missouri:


Projection.

Oh, we get it. It’s some sort of pun. Two thirds of one. PU.

Confusion or cognitive dissonance?  Obama’s no liberal.

* it’s okay if you’re a republican

The "Clinton Rules" return from an eight year exile

13 Saturday Dec 2008

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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"Clinton Rules", Blagojevich, Clinton, media criticism, Obama

Ooh, look! There’s another shiny bauble.

Jamison Foser lists a few of the basic “Clinton Rules”:

…If any part of an alleged scandal turns out to be true, the media behaves as though the entire story is true…

…Media parse every statement by progressives in response to controversy, looking for something to ridicule — whether the ridicule is fair or not…

…Allegations that turn out to be unproven, or even false, are used by the media as evidence in support of future allegations…

I would add: Any spin by the republican “Mighty Wurlitzer”, no matter how outrageous, is guaranteed uncritical multiple repetitions in the media over time until it achieves complete saturation and the status of a permanent meme.

The Mighty Wurlitzer

Originally a CIA term for a propaganda machine, it refers to the network of right-wing publications, think-tanks, and broadcast outlets that regurgitate the day’s RNC talking points. “Wurlitzer” was a company that manufactured organs; cf. “House Organ”. For further details, see Robert Borosage’s article in the May 6, 2002 American Prospect. Ex-conservative columnist David Brock in his confessional memoir Blinded by the Right coined the term Republican Noise Machine to describe the same phenomenon.

You know, we just want a competent media in this country that covers actual news. That might even save the republic. Important news like a collapsing economy and the attempts to save it, rising unemployment, two wars, the weakening of rule of law…

Let’s document the documentation of the atrocities:

The hunting of the president resumes

The right is trying to link Obama to Blagojevich and corruption — and the mainstream media is playing along. The Clinton rules are back.

By Joe Conason

Dec. 12, 2008 | Questions are raised. Connections are drawn. Conspiracies are theorized. Guilt is imputed, implied, asserted and very widely associated. And more of the same feckless fingerpointing is exactly what Barack Obama should expect from the Republicans, the right-wing propaganda machine and their enablers in the mainstream media…

Media Matters: Media pick up where they left off 8 years ago

by Jamison Foser

To anyone who lived through the media feeding frenzy of the 1990s, during which the nation’s leading news organizations spent the better part of a decade destroying their own credibility by relentlessly hyping a series of non-scandals, the past few days, in which the media have tried to shoehorn Barack Obama into the Rod Blagojevich scandal, have been sickeningly familiar…

Not Good Enough

by digby

…Nice. He [Eugene Robinson] goes on to spell out all the ways in which it’s ridiculous to assume that Obama is involved in this scheme, but, as expected, it still doesn’t pass the smell test…

The Art of Insinuation Without Evidence 101

…[Michael] Scherer concludes by saying, “Obama may be bringing change to Washington, but the game still remains the same.” Yes, Scherer will see to that…

There’s so much more (from the Daily Howler): PARSE TILL YOU DROP! Vacuous pundits are still parsing hard. This week, skilled progressives pushed back.

The difference now from those halcyon years between 1992 and 2000? There are more people in more places pushing back against the right wingnut dreck flowing into the media. I just hope it’s enough.

Meanwhile, our useless media ignores real news [pdf].

SurveyUSA poll: Missouri presidential head to head – May '08

22 Thursday May 2008

Posted by Michael Bersin in Uncategorized

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Clinton, McCain, missouri, Obama, president, SurveyUSA

SurveyUSA released a 1523 sample poll of “likely voters” in Missouri on May 19th which was in the field from May 16th through the 18th. The poll runs head to head match ups between McSame and the Democratic candidates. The margin of error is 2.6%.

That’s a really big sample.

The poll was sponsored by KCTV in Kansas City and KSDK in St. Louis.

If the election for President of the United States were today, and the only two candidates on the ballot were (names rotated) Republican John McCain and Democrat Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

All

McCain – 46%

Clinton – 48%

Undecided – 6%

If the election for President of the United States were today, and the only two candidates on the ballot were (names rotated) Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, who would you vote for?

All

McCain – 48%

Obama – 45%

Undecided – 7%

These numbers have remained essentially unchanged (within the margin of error) since the April SurveyUSA poll.

The crosstabulations by party identification are always interesting:

Party Affiliation

Democrats [45% of sample]

McCain – 12%

Clinton – 82%

Undecided – 5%

McCain – 20%

Obama – 72%

Undecided – 7%

republicans [30% of sample]

McCain – 89%

Clinton – 9%

Undecided – 2%

McCain – 89%

Obama – 8%

Undecided – 3%

Independents [19% of sample]

McCain – 54%

Clinton – 36%

Undecided – 11%

McCain – 49%

Obama – 39%

Undecided – 12%

Clinton’s and Obama’s numbers among self-identified Missouri republicans are virtually the same. The difference for the two Democrats is that Clinton does better among Democrats and Obama does slightly better among Independents.

Top Issues for Next President (McCain/Clinton and McCain/Obama numbers for “who would you vote for?” within each group)

Economy [50% of sample]

McCain – 43%

Clinton – 53%

Undecided – 5%

McCain – 46%

Obama – 48%

Undecided – 6%

Health Care [12% of sample]

McCain – 35%

Clinton – 59%

Undecided – 6%

McCain – 34%

Obama – 56%

Undecided – 9%

Iraq [11% of sample]

McCain – 31%

Clinton – 64%

Undecided – 5%

McCain – 27%

Obama – 67%

Undecided – 6%

Terrorism [7% of sample]

McCain – 80%

Clinton – 14%

Undecided – 6%

McCain – 83%

Obama – 10%

Undecided – 7%

Immigration [3% of sample]

McCain –  77%

Clinton – 20%

Undecided – 4%

McCain – 82%

Obama – 14%

Undecided – 4%

Social Security [4% of sample]

McCain – 44%

Clinton – 50%

Undecided – 6%

McCain – 57%

Obama – 28%

Undecided – 14%

Environment [3% of sample]

McCain –  41%

Clinton – 52%

Undecided – 6%

McCain – 23%

Obama – 63%

Undecided – 14%

Education [3% of sample]

McCain –  38%

Clinton – 49%

Undecided – 13%

McCain – 49%

Obama – 43%

Undecided – 8%

McSame continues to hold the republican “fear” base [Terrorism and Immigration]. Economic worries  continue to rise as the most important issue at the expense of even those republican base issues. The smaller subsamples do have a larger margin of error.

Gender

Male [48% of sample]

McCain – 55%

Clinton – 40%

Undecided – 5%

McCain – 54%

Obama – 41%

Undecided – 5%

Female [52% of sample]

McCain – 37%

Clinton – 56%

Undecided – 6%

McCain – 43%

Obama – 47%

Undecided – 10%

There is a definite gender gap when it comes to Clinton and Obama. Males support Clinton and Obama in almost identical numbers.

I usually let the numbers speak for themselves, but after three consecutive polls a month in Missouri I can only come to one conclusion. It’s also a pragmatic solution. Both Clinton and Obama have to be on the ticket for the Democrats to carry Missouri in the presidential race in November.  

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