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On Sunday, Claire McCaskill appeared on talk TV, defending Obama for naming Hillary Clinton and Robert Gates to his cabinet:
McCaskill spoke on Fox News Sunday, opposite Senator Lindsey Graham. She tried to push back on claims that the two powerful personalities of Obama and Clinton may collide.
“Obviously, Barack Obama is going to set the policy, but he will listen to different views,” McCaskill said. “He is not afraid to be challenged by people around him. He wants to be challenged,” she said.
She went on to defend his choice of keeping on Secretary of Defense Bill Gates.
“Let me say this about Secretary Gates. Even though there may have been times I disagreed with him and maybe Barack Obama disagreed with him, this is a man who clearly holds the highest level of the military accountable for mistakes, which has been very impressive to all of us,” she said. “He has solid relationships on both sides of the aisle. And what these picks say about Barack Obama is that the kind of change that he’s embracing is that you don’t just pick the people who were on your side during the campaign. You pick the best you can find. That’s an important change for Washington,” she added.
Indeed, Obama has chosen a number of conservatives like Gates, Geithner and Summers for his cabinet and few if any progressives. Hmm. If I were choosing people for those or any other cabinet positions, I’d want at least some of my advisors to be of the deepest, darkest blue hue. After all, progressives were right about the foolishness of attacking Iraq, right about the dangers of deregulation, right about the science of climate change and right about requiring our president to acquire FISA warrants.
Robert Kuttner, founding co-editor of The American Prospect, on the other hand, lays out the argument that Obama could be following in the Lincolnesque mold. A chapter in his new book, Obama’s Challenge, describes how three great presidents–Lincoln, FDR, and Lyndon Johnson in regard to civil rights–moved the country toward their goals. Lincoln, especially, believed in purple cabinets. Kuttner offers two observations about how he led:
First, Lincoln’s great challenge as president was not just to preserve the Union, or even to free the slaves. It was to win over public sentiment among what today would be called opinion leaders and the people generally. Lincoln gradually transformed how different segments of society thought about the problem of slavery, the challenge of rebuilding the Union, and the role of government in reconstruction and economic development. Out of impossible disunity, he built something close to national consensus.
After more than a century and a half, the popular conception of Lincoln is of the president who saved the Union and freed the slaves. Often overlooked is the fact that holding together the North was almost as difficult a task as conquering and then reintegrating the South. “A house divided against itself cannot stand,” Lincoln had warned in 1858, paraphrasing scripture. But in the war years, a divided house was a fitting description not just of the sundered Union, but of the fractious North as well. Loyalists to the Union included Radical Republicans who wanted both immediate liberation of the slaves and severe punishment of the South; War Democrats who favored a much more gradualist approach; Peace Democrats or “Copperheads” who were ready to abandon the slaves in exchange for a negotiated peace; and citizens of border states, who had narrowly opted to stay with the Union but wanted to keep their slaves.
Second, what enabled Lincoln to hold this coalition together and move it toward a viable national policy had everything to do with Lincoln’s character. “Malice toward none” was not just a felicitous phrase for how Lincoln hoped to treat the conquered and ravaged South. It was how he conducted his daily human relations and mastered politics.
Lincoln’s “team of rivals” included all but the most extreme representatives of these diverse factions. The cabinet was a hothouse of intrigue. Lincoln held it together with exceptional courtesy and respect, and a capacity to lead by example and by teaching. What made people his allies and admirers was not just his keen intellect and good humor. More importantly, it was his kindness, decency, idealism, and honor. He went out of his way to let people know that they were valued when he might have chosen to humiliate them. This trait reflected not just the imperatives of the time–he could not afford to sacrifice even a single potential ally–but also his abiding sense of how one treated people.
I can well imagine Obama treating people of other political persuasions with the same courtesy and respect that Lincoln did. The question is whether we can be sure they are of a different political persuation from him.
In this vein, Glenn Greenwald and David Sirota have been noticing the troubling use of the term “pragmatic” to describe Obama’s cabinet appointments. The media, to avoid admitting that some of them–Geithner and Summers, most notably–are conservative, use a term that is neither liberal nor conservative: pragmatic.
Sirota frets that if the Geithners are pragmatic, what does that make us liberals: pie-in-the-sky idiots?
Our own history during the Great Depression indicates that the pragmatic way to deal with such a massive crisis is through some good old fashioned ideological progressivism.
Obama, I think, knows this, and is doing something of a dance – one that doesn’t seek to challenge or change the Orwellian shenanigans, but to manipulate them for his own – and likely progressive – ends. It could be really brilliant (as long as what he’s doing isn’t the opposite – an attempt to sell policies crafted by conservatives with a marketing team made up of progressives – I don’t think it is, but we can’t be totally sure just yet).
One of Sirota’s commenters is far less sure than Sirota himself. The commenter thinks it likely that our president-elect picked conservatives because he prefers them:
Why would conservative free-market ideologues sign on to be used as vessels for Obama’s progressive economic dictums? This seems an unsubstantiated speculative stretch. Plus, it would make Obama an uber-wonk who maps out all levels of governmental policy by himself and delivers them to his appointed stooges who give it a “pragmatic” cover. (…..)
The fact is, Obama appointed these people because he respects them and agrees with their ideas. He spent ten years at Chicago University — the ground-zero of Milton Friedman ‘Chicago School’ hyper free-market disaster capitalism. Even if he’s on the left end of that spectrum, its pretty far-right.
McCaskill, no lefty herself, describes Obama as strong enough to know his own mind, even when he works with conservatives. Maybe, but I don’t necessarily trust her evaluation.
Still, we hope she’s right. Of course. And Obama has proposed a $700 billion works project to create jobs by improving infrastructure and building a green energy grid. That hardly sounds like Milton Friedman.
At any rate, here’s what we can know: that all three of the presidents Kuttner describes as bringing about transformational change did so under considerable pressure from progressive activists: Lincoln from abolitionists, Roosevelt from labor unions, and LBJ from civil rights groups.
We can’t get inside Obama’s mind. But we can promise ourselves that we’ll do our part to push the national conversation to the left.
--Blue Girl said:
and I have been mad at here since the August break in 2007 – so that was painful to type.
Here is why it makes sense to keep Gates…He turned things around when he took over two years ago, and casualties are down and he has a good relationship with the brass – and most importantly he has cleared some dead wood in the senior officer corps. Gates, by the way is not a republican. He is an Independent and has never claimed any partisan ideology. I fault him for the mistakes he made earlier in his career, but he was the right man for the job when Rummy was fired.
I would be willing to bet money that Obama wants to appoint either Wesley Clark or Anthony Zinni – but they are ineligible until 2010. It is a law that a retired officer must be ten years out of service before he or she is eligible for the SecDef job, and both of those men retired in 2000. Let me speak as someone whose life has been directly and irreversibly impacted by decisions made by the Secretary of Defense, I am thankful that the leadership is not going to change twice in a short window.
But I find “pragmatic” to be welcome and comforting, and not the least bit troubling.
WillyK said:
at least not at this point. Of course, sad experience has taught me that I may have to eat my words before it is all over ….
Right now though, I think he is showing just how smart he is–although I would not necessarily categorize anyone he has appointed as a real, hardcore conservative (no Palin’s, Imhoffe’s or even anybody like Tom Coburn, Obama’s putative friend). Certainly, people like Susan Rice and Melody Barnes should qualify as acceptable. I actually rather like the fact that he wants diversity of viewpoints around him.
And I am not at all put off by the word pragmatic, nor do I think it is an evasion. I really disagree with Sirota and Greenwald on this point. I personally do not really think that Summers, or Gates even, actually qualify as real conservatives. I think the word pragmatic works well for both–at least insofar as I know anything about them. They seem to be people who, when given a task, just want to be able to get it done in the most efficient manner possible, and they don’t care where on the ideological line the solution may fall.
I want Obama to succeed in fulfilling the modest promises he made–which although modest are a sea change from the past eight years–and I think he has been choosing people who have some chance of helping him to do that. I think his choices reflect the hard cold reality of the political world he will have to deal with, as well his belief–which I share–that there has to be some degree of buy-in by a majority of those involved if real change is to ever take place. A diverse cast of very politically experienced and savy supporting players may help him get what he needs in this respect.
Of course, I also absolutely agree with your comments, that progressives will have to keep reminding him that they are out there and so hungry that they must be fed frequently. I just don’ think we should start kicking him or his appointees until we have something concrete to justify the reaction.
I rather liked Jane Hamsher’s take:
WillyK said:
energy is not his portfolio, but I think Obama actually supports some of his less progressive views. Obama did go on about “clean” coal, didn’t he? But to the point of his appointments, my concern is really just about the extent to which Jones mirrors Obama’s beliefs since I do believe that Obama will be the one making policy.
ashriver said:
is when it is imbued with a sense of hopelessness. I’m on a few progressive listserves where people are talking as if Obama’s presidency is already a failure. This is especially annoying when it comes from people who are doing so to promote an obvious ideological agenda (like third party advocates).
On the other hand, I’m a big advocate for pressuring Obama to appoint the people and make the policy decisions that we want. If we aren’t making noise (and in an organized fashion) Obama will not have a reason (or an excuse) to be a true progressive.
WillyK said:
article in the Washington Post may help calm some fears about Gates at least. The gist is that his undersecretaries will probably all be replaced with Obama administration picks. A piece I read (I thought was by Steve Clemons of TWN although I can’t find it now) made the case that the problem was not Gates, but rather the Bush appointees that he worked with in Defense so, from that point of view, this ought to be reassuring.
Another good argument for Gates can be found here
As for Jones, although his views on energy policy are problematic, Clemons, in still yet another article on why Gates may be a good pick, notes that Jones and Gates share views about the MiddleEast that will allow them to work together to very good advantage. And remember, although energy and defense issues are often interrelated, energy policy per se is not Jones portfolio.
hotflash said:
have been ever so civil. The Rude Pundit (via Kos) is … less so:
Just thought I’d quote someone who let it all hang out, for the sake of those who may have reined themselves in. Now I have to go fan myself and loosen my corset. All that blue language, don’t you know.
--Blue Girl said:
Nor a pacifist. But because he was against the war in Iraq from the outset – as a matter of prudent judgment – a lot of projection was done. He said right there in that speech that he was not a pacifist, nor was he anti-war, he is anti stupid wars. Iraq is a stupid war.
But then, consider where my opinion originates – I see the world in shades of khaki. That said, if I was doing the hiring, I would keep Gates, I would put Hillary at State and I would make Jones my National Security Adviser.
He is fostering trust amongst my kind on both sides of the political divide with these picks. Let me be blunt here – we matter in this mess. We matter a whole hell of a lot. We are few in numbers, as a percentage of the population, but we have borne the majority of the burden the last eight years. We went to war, America went shopping. Rest assured – nobody wants out of Iraq worse than we do, but nobody knows more what getting out entails more than we do, either.